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Thread: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

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    Default Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    Hi,

    I am running suse 11.1 64 on a Dell Laptop M6400.
    Gnome / Compiz

    Irregularly (about every 5-10 minutes), my applications windows become grey and unresponsive. This usually last
    about 30 seconds to just over a minute. Then the app return to a "usable" state.

    It is driving me crazy. and make this computer almost unusable for me.

    The applications I am frequently using are Netbeans, Eclipse, Firefox, Opera and Pidgin.

    Anybody is experiencing unresponsive apps from time to time?

    Best,

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    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    Firefox does have a chronic habit of doing this.

    Might be an idea to open a terminal, run 'top', then leave it running. Next time it slows down, alt-tab to the terminal, and see if something is hogging your cpu or memory.

    ETA: Oh, and I forgot to say; if beagle is installed, that could well be the culprit - try uninstalling it, see what that does.

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    tfruth NNTP User

    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    I just performed a fresh of 11.1 with all the current updates and Nvidia drivers. 3d, rotating cube, wobbly windows, etc., all working. Then I open a couple of programs, wave my mouse across the upper right corner, my open windows gather for me to select from, and my graphics freeze. Not until I ssh from another box and kill compiz does the freeze come to an end. I have wanted to switch to openSuSE for while now because Fedora has become so unstable and unrefined. This lockup with compiz has kept me from switching. I have an Nvidia 8500GT card, Intel chipset with quad core Core 2 CPU. I just don't get why this happens, and the HOW-TO's aren't cutting it for me.

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    brassy NNTP User

    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    try:
    -turn off or uninstall beagle, if that doesn't help then [ITDHT]
    -turn off desktop effects, ITDHT:
    -turn off compiz, ITDHT:
    -upgrade to KDE4.3, ITDHT:
    -install and use KDE3, ITDHT:
    -install and use GNOME, ITDHT:
    -run memtest at least 24 hours, ITDHT:
    -search the following for "warning" or "error" clues:
    --/var/log/Xorg.0.log
    --/var/log/kdm.log
    --/var/log/messages
    --/var/log/warn

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    brassy

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    tfruth NNTP User

    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    Turn off desktop effects? Really? This is considered a solution? My whole desire is to have desktop effects. My apologies for not making it clear that I want the rotating cube and wobbly windows and all of that. Unfortunately, the most recent versions of openSuSE ALWAYS lock up when I motion to the upper right corner to show all my open windows. I need that problem solved OR I CAN'T USE openSuSE!

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    brassy NNTP User

    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    tfruth wrote:
    > Turn off desktop effects? Really? This is considered a solution?


    no, it is one step in a process of trying to determine what the
    problem actually is!

    on the other hand, until something in the driver, graphics engine, or
    code base changes you may have *no* choice other than to choose
    between wobbly windows/etc OR a usable system on 11.1

    maybe 11.2 will be better, but not likely if folks like you don't go
    to the trouble of pinning down the actual problem, and THEN filing a
    bug report...and, instead just hop to another distro seeking instant
    gratification..

    --
    brassy

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    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    It would help if you told us what video card you have, and which driver you are using.

    I seem to remember there where a few problems with Intel drivers recently, and if your video is ATI you might as well forget about 3d as AMD sadly haven't put much effort into their drivers.
    HP dv6645, Nvidia 8400m-gs, KDE 4.

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    tfruth NNTP User

    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    Nvidia 8500GT with the latest Nvidia driver (because, as much as the purists hate the 'proprietary' Nvidia driver, it's the best way to get maximum performance out of games, 3D desktop, Google Earth, high-def content, etc.

    You can't debug a system that is unusable. Generally I have found Novell's products to be superior to Microsoft and RedHat, but the eyecandy is a big deal. I've already gone back to Fedora 11, much as I loathe its issues, the system doesn't become totally unusable every time I pass the mouse over the upper right hand corner of the screen.

    I've been using Linux for eleven years and the last two or three seem to have been the worst. The quality control is in the toilet. Stability seems to mean nothing.

    The 3D desktop effects should not be included if they are so **** poor in quality. Every major distro is having this problem, not just openSuSE.

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    brassy NNTP User

    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    > I've been using Linux for eleven years and the last two or three seem
    > to have been the worst. The quality control is in the toilet.
    > Stability seems to mean nothing.


    i agree completely, the developers quest has become Eye Candy, at the
    expense of usability, stability, dependability..

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    brassy

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    Default Re: Unresponsive Applications. Apps freeze. Suse 11.1

    Hmm, odd. It should work ok.

    Did you compile the driver from the Nvidia website, or use the one from the suse nvidia repo?

    Not that it should make much difference, they both (from my experience) work well with desktop effects.

    My video is a 8400m gs, and works perfectly, not that that helps you!

    Did you try using kwin instead of compiz? Much better in my opinion, it does everything that compiz can do, but it's a built in part of KDE4.

    Plus you might want to check your video card, mainboard, and power supply for possible faults.

    It could be something simple like a clogged fan, or blown capacitor (although I've never seen an Nvidia card with a blown cap, but plenty of ATIs!).

    Just wondering if the extra power draw is placing an abnormal load on something in your system, I might be barking up the wrong tree though, I usually am .
    HP dv6645, Nvidia 8400m-gs, KDE 4.

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