Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18

Thread: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Podunk
    Posts
    26,882
    Blog Entries
    15

    Default Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tec_music_downloading

    Ouch!!

    --
    Cheers Malcolm (Linux Counter #276890)
    SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.27.23-0.1-default
    up 0:11, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.13, 0.12
    GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 185.18.14


  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,500

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    What's the big surprise?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Podunk
    Posts
    26,882
    Blog Entries
    15

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    Quote Originally Posted by consused
    What's the big surprise?
    I'm happy with my 99c per song at Amazon... 80 grand per song is a bit
    out of my budget.....

    --
    Cheers Malcolm (Linux Counter #276890)
    SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.27.23-0.1-default
    up 0:29, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.06, 0.13
    GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 185.18.14


  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Frisco, TX
    Posts
    1,233

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 15:11 +0000, Malcolm wrote:
    > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tec_music_downloading
    >
    > Ouch!!
    >


    Remember folks... when you steal something, you can't just get away with
    it by calling it an "accident". And if you encourage others to steal,
    you will certainly sink your case.

    Fine was excessive though. But it may have been warranted depending on
    the true motive of the individual (just not sure if that was really
    determined or not).



  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Utah, USA, Earth, Milky Way
    Posts
    7,536
    Blog Entries
    3

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    Hey cjcox:

    >Fine was excessive though.


    Given she was given the opportunity to settle for much less and chose to
    fight it.....that's what happens.

    --
    Kim (6/19/2009 11:05:12 AM Mountain)

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    17,071

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:05:47 +0000, kgroneman wrote:

    > Hey cjcox:
    >
    >>Fine was excessive though.

    >
    > Given she was given the opportunity to settle for much less and chose to
    > fight it.....that's what happens.


    Well, yeah, she took her chances and lost, but as someone elsewhere
    pointed out, people who cause damage to the environment don't get fined
    like this....this fine is punitive and excessive. I expect that to be
    the subject of the next trip back to court for them all.

    Jim

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Delta Quadrant
    Posts
    1,442

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    > Well, yeah, she took her chances and lost, but as someone elsewhere
    > pointed out, people who cause damage to the environment don't get fined
    > like this....this fine is punitive and excessive. I expect that to be
    > the subject of the next trip back to court for them all.


    The only thing I don't like about the case is the lack of evidence.
    If someone steals your car and mows over your neighbor, and all they got was
    the license number, can you be prosecuted for manslaughter?

    I imagine you could if you did not have some solid alibi, but even if you
    didn't you could be found guilty and sentenced for a crime you did not
    commit. Same with the PC story. I have heard stories of people that have
    broken into other peoples homes to view pr0n so it wouldn't be tracked to
    their house....strange, but true. I have heard from many mothers, who I do
    PC work for, that people have come to visit their house and gotten on their
    PC and loaded up limewire and such. The moms often don't even know what
    these things are for, once they find out they are like can you remove it?
    Many of these same machines are often infected with malware and viruses.

    Do I think this ruling is correct? Well I'm not privy to the arguments in
    court or the evidence, but unless they have some sort of hardcore proof of
    intent I think it's wrong wrong wrong.




  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    17,071

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:58:13 +0000, GofBorg wrote:

    > I imagine you could if you did not have some solid alibi, but even if
    > you didn't you could be found guilty and sentenced for a crime you did
    > not commit. Same with the PC story.


    Yeah, and unfortunately this sort of thing happens quite frequently - and
    often even without going to court because people don't know that when the
    authorities start asking questions, the best thing you can do is say
    *nothing* without first consulting with a lawyer. Even (and especially)
    if you're innocent of any wrongdoing. Law enforcement is trained to get
    people to admit to things, and they're doing one thing: building a case.

    So, for example, if you're being asked (not even as a suspect) about a
    homicide and you say "I wouldn't have shot the victim", if the victim was
    shot and the cops didn't tell you that, then they're going to wonder (in
    court, under oath) why it is that you brought up a shooting when they
    said nothing about it.

    *Even* if another officer said something about it in your presence.

    There's a very good essay (and video presentation) at http://
    http://www.thisistrue.com/blog-dont_..._the_cops.html - very interesting
    reading and viewing.

    Jim

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    /dev/belgium
    Posts
    1,946

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    Yea.... they'll never see/get that money from her...

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Delta Quadrant
    Posts
    1,442

    Default Re: Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case

    > Yea.... they'll never see/get that money from her...

    And imagine the public black eye when she loses her double wide and is
    living under a bridge with her kids. Nice one, real smooth.




Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •