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    Default Alternative to Networkmanager

    What is the best GUI software alternative for Knetworkmanager in repos. I have some issues with this software. Currently i am using ifup, and it work great than KNetworkmanager.
    I was facing speed issue and now is fine, while using ifup method.

    Any ideas?
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    Default Re: Alternative to Networkmanager

    Don't know if there is an alternative gui for kde. You could try the gnome gui.
    Personally, I've always used ifup and it does everything the gui does but just needs a bit of command-line typing. Try ipup --help for all the switches.

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    Default Re: Alternative to Networkmanager

    Try ipup --help for all the switches.
    I think you meant

    ifup --help

    You can also have a look at

    man ifup

    What is the best GUI software alternative for Knetworkmanager in repos.
    Are you using KDE3 or KDE4? I remember I use to use KInternet to control both my modem, wireless, and ethernet interfaces with 10.2.

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    I am using kde4.2.3.
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    Default Re: Alternative to Networkmanager

    On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 18:06 +0000, mmarif4u wrote:
    > What is the best GUI software alternative for Knetworkmanager in repos.
    > I have some issues with this software. Currently i am using ifup, and it
    > work great than KNetworkmanager.
    > I was facing speed issue and now is fine, while using ifup method.


    NetworkManager's goal is to attempt to make the BEST GUESS at the
    desired network path/connection. By definition, it is probabilistic...
    so is the network connection routine in Windows. The reason why some
    consider this better is because most WINDOWS users have no clue as to
    what a network is... and so you need to PULL THEM THROUGH the process.

    Is that right? IMHO, no. The problem isn't taking pot shots (with
    errors) at making a network connection, but rather, the problem is that
    people on the Internet, do not know nearly enough to be a responsible
    user of the technology. Instead of encouraging ignorance, we should be
    educating people.

    I use ifup... I want to KNOW how I'm getting connected. No guessing. I
    just hope that openSUSE doesn't continue to erode into a Windows-esque
    distro.

    I'd much rather have something that "pull me though" by saying, "I tried
    this (with detail), it didn't work, here are some reasons why, and oh...
    this (with detail) might be an option as well, can I try that for you?"
    You CAN educate people while taking guesses.... that's NOT the goal of
    NetworkManager. It is a tool designed to work like WINDOWS... that is,
    you are too stupid and too "important" to be concerned with this (very
    important) thing I'm doing.

    When a really easy/good Linux distro network threat is devised, look for
    the NetworkManager users to spread it like wildfire.... they'll also be
    the ones to complain the loudest about how "Linux" let them down.

    I know I didn't answer you're question.... but ifup with a bit of work,
    could be really great.



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    I don't use knetworkmanager because it interferes with profile switching.
    Instead of using "raw" ifup/ifdown etc., one may use Yast itself to configure the network devices. It's GUI is good. You can always look in the directory /etc/sysconfig/nerwork to see the saved configuration files if you want to fine-tune something.
    knetworkmanager assumes a "windo$-like user" and has got the same problems of windo$ when it fails to determine something properly.
    openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) with Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop and KDE 4.11.2 on MacBook Pro
    Latest MS Windows version used: Win95

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    Default Re: Alternative to Networkmanager

    Thanks to all.
    Currently using the yast one. it is working fine than Knetworkmanager. There is also another kde3 application called KInternet. But also like Networkmanager.
    Some other application which i found bu searching are:
    1- Kwlan
    2- Wireless Assistant
    3- Wifi Radar
    Most of them are KDE3 compatible.
    So for now, Yast ifup is fine to stick around than others.

    I am also thinking of to switch to gnome desktop. becoz i have some other problems with screen too.
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    kinternet is useful when you want to handle dial-up connections. It goes well with Yast configuration.

    KDE version 4.0 or later is not good. To eliminate most of the issues, you may upgrade to at least 4.2.
    openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) with Kernel 3.7.10-1.16-desktop and KDE 4.11.2 on MacBook Pro
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    I have KDE 4.2.3 now and system is fully updated with all updated driver releases.
    But not still not sure, why this screen issue still there.
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    WCID is very good. Don't know if it has issues with KDE though.

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