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    Post KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    KDE 4.2.* In openSUSE 11.1

    kde42 now unmaintained
    see: KDE/Repositories - openSUSE


    This HowTo is to assist users in achieving a working installation of KDE4.2.*
    It should be noted that in SUSE 11.1 the official version is KDE 4.1.3 and the repositories we are using here are from the Build Service (repositories used in the development of openSUSE). Though in this case the repositories have been specially setup at the time of writing to ensure a stable running KDE4.2.* (but not guaranteed) The (.*) means it can change as development progresses.


    First you should know how to manage repositories.
    Repository Management - openSUSE Forums


    In the case of managing KDE4 here I would recommend setting the priority of your repositories all to 99 (Except the OSS and NON-OSS which should be 120). Keep your list of repositories as small as possible and disable ones not in use eg: Videolan or perhaps Education. These repositories are often only added to supply one application, having them Enabled can cause problems.


    Repositories for KDE4
    Desktop
    Index of /repositories/KDE:/42/openSUSE_11.1


    Community
    Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE_42


    *Some users have been adding additional QT repositories But this is not necessary.


    Once these are added, manage the update of your system via Yast Software Management Filter by Repository then select the repositories you just added one at a time starting with Desktop. Now do Update all in this list Unconditionally:





    Don't expect frequent updates in these repositories. Unlike much of the Build Service they are frozen (well not quite), so little change most of the time. You need to familiarize yourself with the Build Service and be aware that repositories could change in the future.

    EDIT Re: Package Name Changes
    When updating please be aware that some packages have changed name. When kde4 was released the transition required packages be prefixed kde4 (eg: kde4-amarok). However, this practice has now largely been dropped, and the prefix has switched to kde3 (eg; kde3-amarok) and kde4 packages just go by the package name with no prefix.

    Updating a 4.1.3 system may require you actually delete packages such as kde4-amarok and just install amarok. Other packages to mention a few, gwenview, digikam, k3b.

    See also this: KDE4 Name Changes - Making the transition - HowTo - openSUSE Forums

    Post questions in a new thread in the forum: openSUSE Forums
    Last edited by caf4926; 04-Oct-2009 at 22:09. Reason: Add Package Name Change Info
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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Why not set the KDE:/42 repos at 19 priority to bypass the update repo?
    That way you assure the update repo will have a higher priority than any other you might add.
    It is abhorrent the spiritual greed of those that knowing something, do not seek the transfer of such knowledge.

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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Oops, wrong thread.
    Thanks for the advice anyway.

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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Repositories for KDE4
    Desktop
    Index of /repositories/KDE:/42/openSUSE_11.1


    Community
    Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE_42


    *Some users have been adding additional QT repositories – But this is not necessary.
    What about KDE 4 (KDE 4.2) Playground repo's? What are the contents of the 'Playground' repositories ?

    EDIT Re: Package Name Changes
    When updating please be aware that some packages have changed name. When kde4 was released the transition required packages be prefixed kde4 (eg: kde4-amarok). However, this practice has now largely been dropped, and the prefix has switched to kde3 (eg; kde3-amarok) and kde4 packages just go by the package name with no prefix.

    Updating a 4.1.3 system may require you actually delete packages such as kde4-amarok and just install amarok. Other packages to mention a few, gwenview, digikam, k3b.

    Post questions in a new thread in the forum: openSUSE Forums
    Regards installing KDE 3 & KDE 4 together, is the method (quoted below) given at (KDE/KDE4 - openSUSE) still valid, even after the KDE 3 & KDE 4 packages have been renamed ?
    KDE 3 and KDE 4 The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix, so KDE3 and KDE4 can safely be installed at the same time.
    To prevent the accidental starting of KDE4 applications within a KDE3 session add at the top of /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
    Code:
    PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:${PATH/:\/opt\/kde3\/bin} export PATH
    If you are using another window manager then adding this line to the .bashrc file should also load the correct applications.
    This has been already done in the Factory and KDE:KDE3 packages which also contain some other minor patches for better co-existence with KDE4 (may need to run kbuildsycoca --noincremental once to become fully active).
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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Playground basically replaced Extra-Apps, at least in part it did.

    Re: KDE3/KDE4
    I have never done as you quote. For me kde3 stuff works in kde4 and kde4 stuff works in kde3.
    You have to practice the magic with kpowersave though.

    kde3 is in /opt
    kde4 is in /usr
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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Hi,

    On a fresh OS11.1 install I was upgrading the KDE from 4.1 to 4.2.
    It said 1GB to download. Actually is that much required?
    Also, While doing the upgrade it also installed the KDE3base and few other KDE3 packages. Are these the dependencies or I can remove them?
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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Quote Originally Posted by mukuls View Post
    Hi,

    On a fresh OS11.1 install I was upgrading the KDE from 4.1 to 4.2.
    It said 1GB to download. Actually is that much required? Probably YES
    Also, While doing the upgrade it also installed the KDE3base and few other KDE3 packages. Are these the dependencies or I can remove them?
    While doing the upgrade it also installed the KDE3base
    That should not really happen. Have you actually installed this Now?

    Look in /var/log/zypp/history

    Copy the contents and paste it to a new kwrite text file
    The upload it to a file server for us to look at.
    Or if you can find the kde3 stuff, just paste it here.
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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    That should not really happen. Have you actually installed this Now?

    Look in /var/log/zypp/history

    Copy the contents and paste it to a new kwrite text file
    The upload it to a file server for us to look at.
    Or if you can find the kde3 stuff, just paste it here.
    Hi Caf,
    I don't know how to upload it to a file server for you guys to look at the file. However, I am posting a snippet for you.
    Code:
    # 2008-12-10 06:57:55 kdelibs3.rpm installed ok
    # Additional rpm output:
    # Starting SuSEconfig, the SuSE Configuration Tool...
    # Running module permissions only
    # Reading /etc/sysconfig and updating the system...
    # Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.permissions...
    # Checking permissions and ownerships - using the permissions files
    # 	/etc/permissions
    # 	/etc/permissions.easy
    # 	/etc/permissions.d/mail-server
    # 	/etc/permissions.d/postfix
    # 	/etc/permissions.local
    # setting /opt/kde3/bin/kpac_dhcp_helper to root:root 4755. (wrong permissions 0755)
    # Finished.
    # 
    2008-12-10 06:57:55|install|kdelibs3|3.5.10-21.11|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|cba4825c77b966cd429577e3fb2101936f68575c
    2008-12-10 06:57:55|install|qtcurve-kde|0.59.5-1.77|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|a02d328d525b53edf90960b9914888ddbdae67e4
    2008-12-10 06:57:55|install|libpoppler-qt4-3|0.10.1-1.4|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|9bc5ebea478521ca745e3652a855b82612906122
    2008-12-10 06:57:56|install|libQtWebKit4|4.4.3-4.7|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|a5b8e0319051aca388c6c66c7712ddeee1e927bd
    2008-12-10 06:57:56|install|strigi|0.5.11-39.11|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|eb3ca174f2a5ffa7b891a792a7163493c61882f3
    2008-12-10 06:57:57|install|yast2-qt|2.17.23-1.5|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|f5ba333972678b2f90465060b64dcde31f7fb83d
    2008-12-10 06:57:57|install|libqimageblitz4|0.0.4-35.86|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|8bc20989b0bf23d2de46a983ab2b1b56ec30ed0d
    2008-12-10 06:57:57|install|libphonon4|4.2.0-40.18|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|75c970e62bef2b194cc1942dae91685216530e94
    2008-12-10 06:57:57|install|gtk2|2.14.4-8.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|6c057614f311eac7c58fa444d4646123e0f0ac7a
    2008-12-10 06:57:58|install|yast2-live-installer|2.17.2-1.17|noarch|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|ea61104695091f4cbedfebcec538f9c64e87bb34
    2008-12-10 06:57:58|install|yast2-add-on|2.17.11-1.21|noarch|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|eba713545aa89648e3c44c0883b439bfce3a5d9f
    2008-12-10 06:57:58|install|NetworkManager-kde|0.7r848570-23.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|1b14787886b3ac89ffc0f50a353d1b69c806feff
    2008-12-10 06:57:58|install|libkcal|3.5.10-8.12|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|4eeef55a3a7db13af34838878c8bb34f7be06817
    2008-12-10 06:57:58|install|yast2-x11|2.17.10-1.7|noarch|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|1c941e6dd75dad3918322d1e066e39226b179746
    2008-12-10 06:57:59|install|sax2-ident|8.1-542.6|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|b2e421105ed9fff827a2a48c317264c725e49672
    2008-12-10 06:57:59|install|kdebase3-runtime|3.5.10-17.4|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|ef83fba7a4f25649b75ce5576691551340435996
    2008-12-10 06:57:59|install|konversation|1.1-18.10|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|d240c8ad749823e9c776065381beca0ff48b1943
    2008-12-10 06:57:59|install|icewm-lite|1.2.36-1.18|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|f663158c99a3b24c5ae4c7f002e6a1abd0a9bf87
    2008-12-10 06:58:00|install|gtk2-32bit|2.14.4-8.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|aa888e4a868c18a4ac0194f69948c108cf8d06b3
    2008-12-10 06:58:00|install|kscpm|0.5.4-143.25|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|3371ffd4883a40d8d790d75068b3d6f614e9ed96
    2008-12-10 06:58:00|install|krecord|1.16-220.65|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|d87a8d64e5b4de93f330b58af7efa6824847f3c7
    2008-12-10 06:58:00|install|kinternet|0.75-220.71|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|dccc55e5f3055a6d1f3191f0ce0cff342f6cef55
    2008-12-10 06:58:00|install|libkipi0|0.1.6-1.63|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|cc7a4b83330c0db5af548b20f286d46eff27bc8e
    2008-12-10 06:58:00|install|libkexiv2-3|0.1.7-49.19|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|c58d538f502fe2c6e692c5da4f63eb6d0b3d0ca9
    2008-12-10 06:58:00|install|libkdcraw3|0.1.4-49.19|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|8904768fcd499661dd55617049ba46f8517f206b
    2008-12-10 06:58:01|install|libktnef1|3.5.10-8.12|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|766eb383df49c3a8d712ae7b63c618901c003992
    2008-12-10 06:58:01|install|libkmime2|3.5.10-8.12|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|0b811da58f3938dc0dd6152a1a459a9f516f0b7c
    2008-12-10 06:58:02|install|libkde4|4.1.3-4.9|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|5d3c94683f2f9adbe0c13de86fe5f566e429e852
    2008-12-10 06:58:02|install|yast2-qt-pkg|2.17.22-1.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|15d6fdb02fde4bba757ac1fb185d2fbab2b4a27b
    2008-12-10 06:58:03|install|libxine1|1.1.15-20.8|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|09155c81b0964115bb94c6ca5b7ee91db0423377
    2008-12-10 06:58:03|install|gconf2|2.24.0-2.17|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|aa0b6b42136ffb5e46e362109ea7a992f4c78f22
    2008-12-10 06:58:03|install|libquicktime|1.0.3-3.92|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|0b3154d1e7999986aeed8006da25099376aebe4d
    2008-12-10 06:58:03|install|libvisual-plugins|0.4.0-91.109|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|bbe738296764b83398ac5839d02828258cdfbc0c
    2008-12-10 06:58:03|install|libglade2|2.6.3-1.43|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|18c2a6e79d1e4ff26166041991d8526ded88c0b2
    2008-12-10 06:58:03|install|gtk2-engines|2.16.1-4.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|46c6eef6220152999e8a1ef0f8662ccb6153c46b
    2008-12-10 06:58:04|install|qtcurve-gtk2|0.59.7-2.4|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|a023ba2dc8fd6f4b72b86c269d0cccc054958760
    2008-12-10 06:58:04|install|OpenOffice_org-libs-extern|3.0.0.9-1.13|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|696f134d5edca134773cb08e48234ee29ca3a5f2
    2008-12-10 06:58:04|install|libgpod3|0.6.0-79.47|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|7fa6f30ccff78a83fc92a1a1b4dde5f5859af5cb
    2008-12-10 06:58:06|install|digikam|0.9.4-51.16|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|43123ad874ecbed72ebc51a45807497bd22986bc
    2008-12-10 06:58:07|install|amarok|1.4.10-26.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|d2bc9dd46997831a467148d441a8f05570f0d9db
    2008-12-10 06:58:07|install|libkcal2|3.5.10-8.12|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|d900d4b528a802e47ff0ae3d77be16fabe805ba1
    2008-12-10 06:58:07|install|libakonadi4|4.1.3-5.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|8aa9133719bad19c0ef15006817eb74f971f8253
    2008-12-10 06:58:07|install|kde4-kupdateapplet-packagekit|0.8.34-2.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|cdc80b4d578d2555a60adb752c5e69ce96b7e612
    2008-12-10 06:58:07|install|libkdegames4|4.1.3-3.9|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|7d30056567bbf3ab2f68b8b19558e39022755e94
    2008-12-10 06:58:07|install|libkcompactdisc4|4.1.3-4.11|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|fb091fb5e994b9f89448530a1d1b159ad8a90dfa
    2008-12-10 06:58:07|install|libkcddb4|4.1.3-4.11|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|8fdd080a3d21d9186328a206ac2141a8df078efd
    2008-12-10 06:58:08|install|libksane0|4.1.3-4.6|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|0014784ff601d023d376e99edbaf4d536c69b72e
    2008-12-10 06:58:08|install|libkonq5|4.1.3-3.5|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|4639cb0059d0fc0af99e5d79101bf89639c49c17
    2008-12-10 06:58:08|install|libkipi5|4.1.3-4.6|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|7ab41c7961db6a79c0dd8819266ac49eeccba608
    2008-12-10 06:58:08|install|kio_iso|1.99.1.svn6082-3.1|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|dc2d84e5ed4573c856556834b5093eedc1dd087e
    2008-12-10 06:58:09|install|kaffeine|0.8.7-1.95|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|de6085e2fd12434bde2f62585fbe60447725b4d5
    2008-12-10 06:58:09|install|kdelibs4-core|4.1.3-4.9|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|495efd64304ae47557adeafcd079eae686c4224f
    2008-12-10 06:58:09|install|qtcurve-gtk2-32bit|0.59.7-2.4|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|f27a5c20c2f581113cf1167c98fd61b3b8a12ab8
    2008-12-10 06:58:09|install|nspluginwrapper|1.0.0-14.3|x86_64|root@build21|home_rpmdir_rpms|40e3def62ab8dd8b827152f15baa10ad956c3fee
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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    It may be just related to some packages you have that brought this about. Do you now have a kde3 option at the login screen (lower left corner).

    Is this causing any issue for you?

    It's possible we could remove them, but answer the above first please.
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    Default Re: KDE4.2.* (How To Add) Guide.

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    It may be just related to some packages you have that brought this about. Do you now have a kde3 option at the login screen (lower left corner).

    Is this causing any issue for you?

    It's possible we could remove them, but answer the above first please.
    No, I dont have kde3 option at the login screen. But kde3 folder is present in dir /opt
    It's not causing any issue for me. But I don't any additional components installed on my system.
    When I tried to uninstall it through yast, it also deletes the following packages:
    1. alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-default
    2. kdialog (4.2.98-101.2)
    So I think it's kdialog which installed it.
    What say?
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