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    tuxolero NNTP User

    Default 5 minutes pause at every boot

    Hi !
    I have installed openSUSE 11.1 on my old laptop (Celeron 1.7 GHz, 768 MB RAM, shoud be enough).
    When booting, it always stops between the message
    Code:
    Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency.. 3389 BogoMIPS (lpj=6779940)
    and
    Code:
    kdb version 4.4 by Keith Owens, Scott Lurndal. Copyright SGI, All Rights Reserved
    But there is no error message in /var/log/boot.msg at all.
    Any idea how to find out what's happening in those 5 minutes ?

    Thanks in Advance,
    Markus

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    Default Re: 5 minutes pause at every boot

    Does the same happens if you boot in safe mode?

    If not, you could write down all options used in it (they are shown in the options line at the boot screen) and try one by one in a normal boot, to find the offending part. Then you can search for specific details.

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    tuxolero NNTP User

    Default Re: 5 minutes pause at every boot

    Yes, with Failsfe it also happens.
    And even when I remove all kernel parameters (except root=... of course), it happens too.

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    Default Re: 5 minutes pause at every boot

    tuxolero adjusted his/her AFDB on Sunday 10 May 2009 23:36 to write:

    >
    > Yes, with Failsfe it also happens.
    > And even when I remove all kernel parameters (except root=... of
    > course), it happens too.
    >
    >



    There is an app ( whose name escapes me at the moment ) that analyses the
    boot process in real time and draws a graph of the progress, from this you
    can see what is holding up your machine.

    IIRC it was included or can be installed from one of the repo`s, someone
    here will probably know, I am off to noddy land now what is left of my grey
    cells quit on me about 10 mins ago.:-)

    Ahhh!!! I think it is bootchart hang on .....


    Repository URL: http://download.opensuse.org/distrib...11.1/repo/oss/

    there ya go, if you have that repo ( should have ) install and have a play
    might help.

    HTH

    ZZZzzz...[No carrier]


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    Mark

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    Default Re: 5 minutes pause at every boot

    Quote Originally Posted by tuxolero View Post
    Yes, with Failsfe it also happens.
    And even when I remove all kernel parameters (except root=... of course), it happens too.
    I'd speculate that the system may be waiting for a device to respond. Some time ago I had this problem and it ended up being a defective drive. Weird that the log shows nothing, however.

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    tuxolero NNTP User

    Default Re: 5 minutes pause at every boot

    Quote Originally Posted by baskitcaise View Post
    There is an app ( whose name escapes me at the moment ) that analyses the
    boot process in real time and draws a graph of the progress, from this you
    can see what is holding up your machine.

    IIRC it was included or can be installed from one of the repo`s, someone
    here will probably know, I am off to noddy land now what is left of my grey
    cells quit on me about 10 mins ago.:-)

    Ahhh!!! I think it is bootchart hang on .....
    OK, I have tried bootchart, but it did not help.

    I think it's because my problem occurs extremely early in the boot process (during kernel initialization or so ...), while bootchart starts working at the moment when init comes into play. Indeed, it's implemented as an init replacement...

    But thanks a lot for the hint anyway. At least I learned something new :-)

    What I hoped for when I opened this topic was some kernel option that adds some verbosity to the kernel initialization.

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    tuxolero NNTP User

    Default Re: 5 minutes pause at every boot

    Quote Originally Posted by brunomcl View Post
    I'd speculate that the system may be waiting for a device to respond. Some time ago I had this problem and it ended up being a defective drive. Weird that the log shows nothing, however.
    Of course, one can never be 100% sure, but I don't think it's a defective drive.
    I have two more operating systems installed on this laptop (Kubuntu 9.04 and Windows XP) and both of them work without any problems.

    If the problem is really about waiting for a drive, I'd rather suspect some unsuitable drive initialization method, i.e. the disk is an old-fashioned parallell IDE drive (that was hda in older Linux versions), and the current kernels (on Kubuntu also) treat it as SCSI-like device, so now it's sda.

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