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    Default Build Essential

    Hi all,

    I need to install build essential but it is not in yast list? what should i do??
    Thanks.

    Note: opensuse 11.1 (KDE)

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    Quote Originally Posted by devox View Post
    Hi all,

    I need to install build essential but it is not in yast list? what should i do??
    Thanks.

    Note: opensuse 11.1 (KDE)
    From How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
    Describe the goal, not the step
    If you are trying to find out how to do something (as opposed to reporting a bug), begin by describing the goal. Only then describe the particular step towards it that you are blocked on.

    Often, people who need technical help have a high-level goal in mind and get stuck on what they think is one particular path towards the goal. They come for help with the step, but don't realize that the path is wrong. It can take substantial effort to get past this.
    Stupid:
    How do I get the color-picker on the FooDraw program to take a hexadecimal RGB value?
    Smart:
    I'm trying to replace the color table on an image with values of my choosing. Right now the only way I can see to do this is by editing each table slot, but I can't get FooDraw's color picker to take a hexadecimal RGB value.

    The second version of the question is smart. It allows an answer that suggests a tool better suited to the task.
    I suppose you want to install the basic packages to be able to build programs. The way to do so in Debian/Ubuntu can be to install the "build-essential" metapackage... that doesn't means that this is the correct path in openSUSE... that doesn't even means that someone in this forum will know what "build-essential" is.


    In openSUSE you can install the development packages through patterns. Install them through zypper with "zypper in -t pattern" or filter by pattern in YaST to see them.
    Code:
    $ zypper se -t pattern devel
    Loading repository data...
    Reading installed packages...
    
    S | Name                  | Summary                             | Type
    --+-----------------------+-------------------------------------+--------
    i | devel_C_C++           | C/C++ Development                   | pattern
      | devel_C_C++-32bit     | devel_C_C++-32bit                   | pattern
    i | devel_basis           | Base Development                    | pattern
      | devel_basis-32bit     | devel_basis-32bit                   | pattern
      | devel_cell            | Cell Development                    | pattern
      | devel_cell-32bit      | devel_cell-32bit                    | pattern
      | devel_gnome           | GNOME Development                   | pattern
      | devel_gnome-32bit     | devel_gnome-32bit                   | pattern
      | devel_ide             | Integrated Development Environments | pattern
      | devel_ide-32bit       | devel_ide-32bit                     | pattern
      | devel_java            | Java Development                    | pattern
      | devel_java-32bit      | devel_java-32bit                    | pattern
      | devel_kde             | KDE Development                     | pattern
      | devel_kde-32bit       | devel_kde-32bit                     | pattern
      | devel_kernel          | Linux Kernel Development            | pattern
      | devel_kernel-32bit    | devel_kernel-32bit                  | pattern
      | devel_mono            | .NET Development                    | pattern
      | devel_mono-32bit      | devel_mono-32bit                    | pattern
      | devel_perl            | Perl Development                    | pattern
      | devel_perl-32bit      | devel_perl-32bit                    | pattern
      | devel_python          | Python Development                  | pattern
      | devel_python-32bit    | devel_python-32bit                  | pattern
      | devel_qt4             | Qt 4 Development                    | pattern
      | devel_qt4-32bit       | devel_qt4-32bit                     | pattern
      | devel_rails           | Ruby on Rails Development           | pattern
      | devel_rails-32bit     | devel_rails-32bit                   | pattern
    i | devel_rpm_build       | RPM Build Environment               | pattern
      | devel_rpm_build-32bit | devel_rpm_build-32bit               | pattern
      | devel_ruby            | Ruby Development                    | pattern
      | devel_ruby-32bit      | devel_ruby-32bit                    | pattern
      | devel_tcl             | Tcl/Tk Development                  | pattern
      | devel_tcl-32bit       | devel_tcl-32bit                     | pattern
      | devel_web             | Web Development                     | pattern
      | devel_web-32bit       | devel_web-32bit                     | pattern
      | devel_yast            | YaST Development                    | pattern
      | devel_yast-32bit      | devel_yast-32bit                    | pattern
    Like you can see there are different patterns depending on what you exactly need.

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    Default Re: Build Essential

    devox wrote:
    > I need to install build essential but it is not in yast list? what
    > should i do??


    There is no such package in openSUSE. Instead you need this:

    To install a C/C++ compiler and required Development Tools; open YAST
    Software Management ; Change Filter to 'Patterns' and select C/C++
    Development ( On 11.0 this is called C/C++ Compiler and Tools ) ; Click
    Accept. To accomplish this from a command line, as root, issue;
    zypper install -t pattern devel_C_C++

    Kind regards,
    Andreas Stieger


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    On 4/29/2009 9:06 AM, RedDwarf wrote:
    > devox;1979174 Wrote:
    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> I need to install build essential but it is not in yast list? what
    >> should i do??
    >> Thanks.
    >>
    >> Note: opensuse 11.1 (KDE)

    > From 'How To Ask Questions The Smart Way'
    > (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal)
    >> *Describe the goal, not the step*
    >> If you are trying to find out how to do something (as opposed to
    >> reporting a bug), begin by describing the goal. Only then describe the
    >> particular step towards it that you are blocked on.
    >>
    >> Often, people who need technical help have a high-level goal in mind
    >> and get stuck on what they think is one particular path towards the
    >> goal. They come for help with the step, but don't realize that the path
    >> is wrong. It can take substantial effort to get past this.
    >> *Stupid:*
    >> How do I get the color-picker on the FooDraw program to take a
    >> hexadecimal RGB value?
    >> *Smart:*
    >> I'm trying to replace the color table on an image with values of my
    >> choosing. Right now the only way I can see to do this is by editing each
    >> table slot, but I can't get FooDraw's color picker to take a hexadecimal
    >> RGB value.
    >>
    >> The second version of the question is smart. It allows an answer that
    >> suggests a tool better suited to the task.

    >
    > I suppose you want to install the basic packages to be able to build
    > programs. The way to do so in Debian/Ubuntu can be to install the
    > "build-essential" metapackage... that doesn't means that this is the
    > correct path in openSUSE... that doesn't even means that someone in this
    > forum will know what "build-essential" is.
    >
    >

    Not sure what all the hoopala is about asking smart questions is about.
    If the OP is used to a different distro then they might not know it
    isn't called the same thing or packaged the same way, hence why the
    question is smart as it gets the point across of what is being searched for.

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    Hey RedDwarf. Yes you I'm talking to you.

    The ANSWER to the QUESTION is:

    Code:
    sudo zypper install --type pattern devel_basis
    Now that WASN'T so DIFFICULT now WAS IT!???

    I wish I could tell Google to remove this page from their index because your answer isn't helping anyone.
    Last edited by malcolmlewis; 26-Jan-2014 at 13:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yuioup View Post
    Hey RedDwarf. Yes you I'm talking to you.

    The ANSWER to the QUESTION is:

    Code:
    sudo zypper install --type pattern devel_basis
    Now that WASN'T so DIFFICULT now WAS IT!???

    I wish I could tell Google to remove this page from their index because your answer isn't helping anyone.
    Thanks for this, yuioup. Even though the answer you quoted was rude and unhelpful, your answer helped me know how to install the equivalent of Debian's 'build-essential' package. I hope that I don't get bashed like OP did if I have to ask a question as a user moving from Debian to openSUSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalseargolid View Post
    Thanks for this, yuioup. Even though the answer you quoted was rude and unhelpful, your answer helped me know how to install the equivalent of Debian's 'build-essential' package. I hope that I don't get bashed like OP did if I have to ask a question as a user moving from Debian to openSUSE.
    The question now is, why did you respond to a post that is 7 years old? All you did was put this thread in highlight, giving those of us who peruse any new posts, to think there was something new.


    I ask, again, the admins here to think again about archiving threads from a version or date that is waaaay past any usefulness. I brought this up once before and was told that it would be a possibility. Well, I'm (and I'm sure many others) are still waiting, and wasting time on posts that needn't be wasted on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerijan2003 View Post
    The question now is, why did you respond to a post that is 7 years old? All you did was put this thread in highlight, giving those of us who peruse any new posts, to think there was something new.


    I ask, again, the admins here to think again about archiving threads from a version or date that is waaaay past any usefulness. I brought this up once before and was told that it would be a possibility. Well, I'm (and I'm sure many others) are still waiting, and wasting time on posts that needn't be wasted on.
    Hi. This question helped me today. Thanks.

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