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    Default Can't run some apps as root or add shortcuts to the panel

    Couple of things I can do in Suse 11.0 x86_64 on kde 3.5 that I can't in Suse 11.1 x86_64 on kde 4.1

    From a console I'm used to doing su, password, and then being able to run programs, three in particular I've discovered so far that won't run are kwrite (kate runs), dolphin and konqueror

    Also if I open dolphin in superuser mode from the menu, right-click on a file and choose to open it with kwrite it doesn't work, does if I open konqueror in superuser mode from the menu though


    On the 11.0 with kde 3.5 machine I can add 'shortcuts' to programs and even folders from the menu to the panel or desktop by right-clicking on them, and I find this very convenient

    On the 11.1 box with kde 4.1 (think it's the same in 4.2.2) right-clicking on them just opens the program or folder

    Seems to be no way of adding anything that isn't in the list of widgets to the panel or desktop, and I'm finding this very INconvenient!

    Are these things normal and I'll just have to bear with them, or is there anything I can do to make them behave more like I'm used to?

    To all intents and purposes it makes it feel like I have less control over how to set up the desktop in the latest environment than I did in the previous ... almost like a step backwards

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    Default Re: Can't run some apps as root or add shortcuts to the pane

    Quote Originally Posted by Ecky View Post
    Couple of things I can do in Suse 11.0 x86_64 on kde 3.5 that I can't in Suse 11.1 x86_64 on kde 4.1

    From a console I'm used to doing su, password, and then being able to run programs, three in particular I've discovered so far that won't run are kwrite (kate runs), dolphin and konqueror
    kdesu will launch any kde program in super user mode.

    For instance, superuser kwrite can be done by hitting alt+f2 then typing

    kdesu kwrite <path to file>

    dolphin has been having problems with being able to launch programs from superuser mode... not to sure what to suggest with that.

    On the 11.0 with kde 3.5 machine I can add 'shortcuts' to programs and even folders from the menu to the panel or desktop by right-clicking on them, and I find this very convenient

    On the 11.1 box with kde 4.1 (think it's the same in 4.2.2) right-clicking on them just opens the program or folder
    This can be achieved by dragging it to the Desktop or Panel and it will automatically create a shortcut for you. I'm not too sure about folders though.

    Hope this helps,

    Ian
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    Default Re: Can't run some apps as root or add shortcuts to the pane

    Actually the issue is more from KDE 4, from what I remember reading KDE4 purposely limits root access so using normal root terminals kde4 apps wont work without extra commands.
    I have experienced this myself, when using something with a sudo based system such as Ubuntu Dolphin opens with sudo dolphin, but on Mandriva when you input su and pop in the root password and try to start dolphin it wont work...
    But GTK file managers like Nautilus and PCmanFM work right away.

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    Default Re: Can't run some apps as root or add shortcuts to the pane

    Grin and bear it it is then ... unless

    I've got some other problems that are close to convincing me I should have stuck with 11.0 and I'm kinda having a debate with myself on whether to switch back to it or not

    Dragging folders doesn't work btw

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    Default Re: Can't run some apps as root or add shortcuts to the pane

    I really wish I had a 4.2 box somewhere around here, but all mine are running 4.3. I was pretty sure you could do all of that with 4.2. Currently with 4.3 if you drag a folder to the desktop you get an option of adding a folder view widget, a lancelot part, or an icon. The icon is what you would want.

    If 11.0 is what will give you the most out of your computer then go for it. No one is forcing you to use 11.1, unless there's a program that only works with 11.1. But if 11.0 is what works for you and most programs work better with 11.0 then keep 11.0 until the features you want are implemented in the newer versions of openSUSE or KDE.

    Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

    Good Luck,

    Ian
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    Default Re: Can't run some apps as root or add shortcuts to the pane

    It works with kde 4.2 as you can see from my screenshot.
    Yo can either right click on an icon in kicker and select add to panel or drag and drop icons on the panel.
    You can then right click on the icons on the panel select icon settings > application > permissions > advanced and choose to run as root

    Geoff
    Quote Originally Posted by Ecky View Post
    Grin and bear it it is then ... unless

    I've got some other problems that are close to convincing me I should have stuck with 11.0 and I'm kinda having a debate with myself on whether to switch back to it or not

    Dragging folders doesn't work btw
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    Default Re: Can't run some apps as root or add shortcuts to the pane

    I meant to the panel mate rather than the desktop

    Moot point now, I decided that as it's to replace my current server it didn't really matter

    The only desktops to be fired up on it are over nx anyway

    I also wanted to use my existing confs for things like mail, subdomains etc etc as the thought of doing them all again brings me out in a cold sweat!

    I think some of the newer packages have things like sockets in different locations, I know the latest mysql does, probably why some of the confs only 'nearly worked' on 11.1

    It's running 11 now and apart from the dhcp server and a pile of data to copy over it's more or less good to go

    I do like to keep up with the new stuff, never know what's out there otherwise, but I also think newer isn't always better, and for the purposes the box is being used for 11 is plenty good enough

    Still got 11.1 with kde 4.2.2 on a laptop for playing about with anyway

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