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    zraiden99 NNTP User

    Unhappy updating in Yast - 2 questions

    Is there anyway to only select and install what you want, with its dependencies, only, and no more? I was able to update once. The second time, the updates start to become bigger and bloated. I was just trying to update 4 Java apps, sun-1.5, sun-1.6 and the openJDKs. When does an MP3 player become part of that update, especially when I didn't even choose to update the MP3 player in the first place. Anyway, what I thought would be an update of four files becomes a mass internet download of four hours. So, I guess I need more information on how the YAST works, because after the second update, I start to feel that I have no idea or control on what is being installed thru the update. After that particular update, KDE started to **** out on me, which lead me to clean install for the fifth time. There has to be a way to keep track what you updated and want kept updated.
    After making sections, and they are sections you want to keep updated on a regular basis, is there a way to "save" those sections? It takes a lot of time to reselect everything to keep certain files updated on a regular basis. And it introduces too many ways to add more than you wanted or too little than you wanted.
    In either cases, the dependencies become a huge rats' nest after the first update, updating more than it should or too little. The second update has so far broken something making the computer useless, which leads to a clean install and hours of update downloads. Help a frustrated geek, please.

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    Wink Re: updating in Yast - 2 questions

    Hi and Welcome to the openSUSE forum/community. I hope you enjoy your stay and experience great feelings while being a part of it.

    What I get from this is, You tried to install JDK 1.5 or 1.6 (only 1 is really needed.) and then YaST started randomly downloading all kinds of things that are not wanted or needed. Sounds like a bug to me, although, all that downloading could really just be system update. If so, go to YaST, online update and change the settings. I personally have no automatic updates, simply because every single kernel the version that comes out, takes at least 2 weeks to get all the bugs connected to it, fixed. So once again, The question is not quite clear, if you restate it ... and you also say,

    The second update has so far broken something making the computer useless, which leads to a clean install and hours of update downloads. Help a frustrated geek, please.
    When something goes wrong, you don't just reinstall SuSE, you post, try to find a solution for it, so the next time it happens you'll know what to do. There's a lot of people using openSUSE so there will be at least some of them that probably encountered the same issue. I hope everything goes well, now that you have just performed a fresh installation, but for further reference, just post, no matter what goes wrong, so we can look for a solution.

    (p.s. a kernel update most likely caused w/e kind of problem you had. It usually happens, so I recommend, don't automatically install any updates, and try not installing a kernel update until it's working perfectly, otherwise, you'll have to learn to handle with it the hard way - roll back.)

    Just remember one thing, takes more than just "want to learn linux" or "want to learn to hack" to actually learn the linux. It does not though, in fact only one thing - patience.

    Good luck and hope to see you soon.

    //Alek
    | OpenSuSE 11.4 Gnome Shell 64-bit | 4.2 i7-930 | ATI Raden 5750

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    zraiden99 NNTP User

    Default Re: updating in Yast - 2 questions

    Okay, I went back on to my engineering roots and taking one step at a time. I did very well until I got to KDE 4.2.2. There is a bug in it. And the problem with it is that it reacts too differently to get a hold on it. Once I got stuck in the never ending login loop. Once it just didn't come up. Once started to make my computer to overheat and mess up the video of the screen. And I wasn't able to install the nvidia drivers like I use to do. I have a list for Yast improvements. Do you want them?

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    zraiden99 NNTP User

    Exclamation Re: updating in Yast - 2 questions

    Or the problem could be with the kernal update that comes through the default update repositories. I am trying to use the one-click install to get KDE 4.1.3 back on. The problem here is one file, the plasma-workspace didn't reload/install from the one-click. The one good thing that did happen after going back the KDE 4.1.3 is my computer fan on my laptop isn't going at 100% capacity. So, trying once more using the one-click install to see if the plasma file will upload correctly and more things all shiny and new again. The problem with this file is seriously hosing the speed and whiting out everything except for the windows I had opened before using the one-click. Luckily, I had the firefox up and running. If this doesn't work, I am not sure where to go from here. The one thing I do know, staying with KDE 4.1.3 and updating to Qt4.5 made things very snappy. Very good speed increase with this with a few changes to "look" of the desktop. If this above problem doesn't pan out, I will start with a new install, do everything over again and to not to install KDE 4.2.x. I have an engineering project that I need to get started and I don't have the time to tinker with this anymore.

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    deConficter NNTP User

    Default Re: updating in Yast - 2 questions

    > I will start with a new install, do everything over
    > again and to not to install KDE 4.2.x. I have an engineering project
    > that I need to get started and I don't have the time to tinker with this
    > anymore.


    hey, if you are looking for stability you should NOT install KDE4.x at
    all...just go with either KDE3, Gnome, Xfce or some other...

    well, the beauty is you CAN also have the bleeding (unstable) edge and
    select to go into it and tinker all you wish AFTER you have done all
    your work in a stable/safe environment..

    this is NOT Windows[tm] where there are no stable/safe places, at all..

    --
    deConficter

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    zraiden99 NNTP User

    Default Re: updating in Yast - 2 questions

    After killing many goats, chickens and pigs, (can you hear the sarcasm dripping from my chin?) I was able to get openSUSE updated and ready to go. The combination of FX Nvidia drivers, the new kernel .21 and 4.2.2 KDE doesn't seem to work from me. The combination of the FX Nvidia drivers, the new kernel and the latest in GNOME does work for me. The system didn't give me the cludge that the KDE combination did. I am not sure what the problem is since the system would different things at different times. I wished I new the different log file to look at and the different debugging commands are and I would have gone through process in finding out the problem was since this is what I do for a living, finding out, debugging systems, just not Linux. All I do know, there is something about that three item combination, Nvidia driver, kernel and 4.2.2 KDE. Also, why is the Yast in GNOME and KDE different? Most of the capabilities I listed at the beginning of this post were located in the GNOME. The thing I would like to see in the GNOME Yast is the install(available) tab next to each package so you can see in a glance what the version it. Overall, I like the GNOME Yast version over the KDE version.

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