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    Default KDE 4.3 Beta/Unstable - Findings

    As my sound dropped out for some reason I started changing and updating a lot of things and ended up with KDE 4.3

    So now after having it in use for a few days I thought I'd share my findings.

    The Good
    1. Using a multi-monitor setup on one location in 4.2 led to crashes, it doesn't do that anymore.
      It will simply squeeze the 2 monitor content on one. Although it's not perfect.. it's a huge improvent upon 4.2 "Plasma workspace has crashed".
      To give an example of why it isn't perfect (yet), the sticky notes plasmoid is displayed outside the visible part of my screen (going from 1680x1050 + 1920x1200 to 1680*1050).
      And when hooking up the 1920x1200 display again although the plasmoids are moved tot the proper display, their alignment is off for one monitor and the bottom panel falls a bit short.
    2. Customizable icon for the launcher - Woohoo been waiting for this one, used lancelot for this purpose before while I liked the normal menu better.
      Now I can have my customizable icon AND the normal launcher menu.
    3. Fancy new effect for launcher when opening, eyecandy
    4. Analog clock addon seems to downscale better though that's probably thanks to my plasma theme
    5. Something changed about the changelist, it looks better with multiple rows and no longer locks up randomly for me anymore.
    6. Some other multi-display oddities seem to be fixed


    The Bad
    1. It's quite unstable for me, knotify causes plasma to crash. Turn it off for where it's commonly used (In my case KMess) and it's not too bad.
      At least nothing to complain about when running beta software.
    2. alt+f2 to restart plasma no longer works.. that's nerve wrecking combined with knotify crashing plasma (and sometimes not automically restarting it after).
    3. Amarok 2 wont install without downgrading half the install - Probably myself to blame for not setting up the repositories properly


    Verdict
    Certainly a beta, don't upgrade to it if you value a stable system. But it sure looks like they added some nice polish to it (like the customisable launcher icon) and are busy with small improvements all over the place.
    Although it doesn't feel like a change as big as 4.1 to 4.0 or from 4.1 to 4.2 it still is yet another step closer to a perfect desktop.
    I was quite happy with 4.2, but the little extra's in 4.3 are ones that I value.
    Special effects <- KDE 4.2 Showing off
    More KDE -> PINK KDE

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    Default Re: KDE 4.3 Beta/Unstable - Findings

    Thanks for posting this. I was wondering if anyone was trying it out. I can't afford to risk it myself, at least not at the moment. I just have too many admin jobs needing my laptop working and setup. I have tried it in VBox mind you but that was some months ago. It was just about usable then. Did you add the QT45?
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    Special effects <- KDE 4.2 Showing off
    More KDE -> PINK KDE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeia View Post
    As my sound dropped out for some reason I started changing and updating a lot of things and ended up with KDE 4.3

    So now after having it in use for a few days I thought I'd share my findings.

    The Good
    1. Using a multi-monitor setup on one location in 4.2 led to crashes, it doesn't do that anymore.
      It will simply squeeze the 2 monitor content on one. Although it's not perfect.. it's a huge improvent upon 4.2 "Plasma workspace has crashed".
      To give an example of why it isn't perfect (yet), the sticky notes plasmoid is displayed outside the visible part of my screen (going from 1680x1050 + 1920x1200 to 1680*1050).
      And when hooking up the 1920x1200 display again although the plasmoids are moved tot the proper display, their alignment is off for one monitor and the bottom panel falls a bit short.




    1. Customizable icon for the launcher - Woohoo been waiting for this one, used lancelot for this purpose before while I liked the normal menu better.
      Now I can have my customizable icon AND the normal launcher menu.
    2. Fancy new effect for launcher when opening, eyecandy
    3. Analog clock addon seems to downscale better though that's probably thanks to my plasma theme
    4. Something changed about the changelist, it looks better with multiple rows and no longer locks up randomly for me anymore.
    5. Some other multi-display oddities seem to be fixed


    The Bad
    1. It's quite unstable for me, knotify causes plasma to crash. Turn it off for where it's commonly used (In my case KMess) and it's not too bad.
      At least nothing to complain about when running beta software.
    2. alt+f2 to restart plasma no longer works.. that's nerve wrecking combined with knotify crashing plasma (and sometimes not automically restarting it after).
    3. Amarok 2 wont install without downgrading half the install - Probably myself to blame for not setting up the repositories properly


    Verdict
    Certainly a beta, don't upgrade to it if you value a stable system. But it sure looks like they added some nice polish to it (like the customisable launcher icon) and are busy with small improvements all over the place.
    Although it doesn't feel like a change as big as 4.1 to 4.0 or from 4.1 to 4.2 it still is yet another step closer to a perfect desktop.
    I was quite happy with 4.2, but the little extra's in 4.3 are ones that I value.

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    To break a quote, end where you wish to break it with [/QUOTE]. Then restart making sure it starts [QUOTE] and ends the same as previous.

    I had a major difficulty trying to write that hope that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeia View Post
    [*] alt+f2 to restart plasma no longer works.. that's nerve wrecking combined with knotify crashing plasma (and sometimes not automically restarting it after).
    Plasma is called plasma-desktop in kde 4.3!

    I've randomly tested it some months ago...

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    same install as Axeia

    what I ended up with is:
    4.2.68(KDE 4.2.68 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090327)) "release 1.2"

    up to now all is well (music, burning cd dvd, skype, ff, email, oo, scanner etc) .... except that from time to time Dolphin is melting down (literally).... very weird

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    Just upgraded and am now at openSUSE 11.1 KDE 4.2.68 (KDE 4.2.68 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090327)) "release 1.2" on my extra 80 gig HD. Anyways, some problems I saw were that when you change the Desktop Settings like wallpaper and theme you can't hit apply, you can only click ok.

    Another thing is, now that QT 4.5 is being used, Konqueror and sysinfo:/ no longer work (was having this problem when using qt4.5 with kde greater than 4.2.1 "104" and kde 4.2.2).

    Plasma crashes when I choose to restart or shut down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger_Marquis View Post
    same install as Axeia

    what I ended up with is:
    4.2.68(KDE 4.2.68 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090327)) "release 1.2"

    up to now all is well (music, burning cd dvd, skype, ff, email, oo, scanner etc) .... except that from time to time Dolphin is melting down (literally).... very weird
    KDE4-K3b still doesn't recognize I have the .mp3 audio decoder plugin installed. It also won't rip a dvd, but instead decides I'm asking to burn a DVD. (Kde3/k3b doesn't work with current version of transcode so dvd ripping must be done with another application). So other than that all is well for me.

    I love the customizable menu icon! Before I had to switch the start-here-branding.svg image manually and anytime opensuse-branding-workspace (or something like that) upgraded, it would revert it back to the lizzard icon.

    KDE 4.3 definitely looks promising!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strahlex View Post
    Plasma is called plasma-desktop in kde 4.3!

    I've randomly tested it some months ago...
    Ah thanks a ton, would have expected the alt+f2 dialog to at least display the proper one after typing in plasma.

    Few other things I've noticed that are new:
    • Dolphins 'preview' view now also display previews of files IN folders, much like explorer does in windows. Can't say I dig the looks though.
    • Changing the desktop wallpaper is done by fading in the new one.. and the desktop settings window seems to be slightly bugged. Can't apply changes, have to hit OK instead... apply stays grayed out.
    • Network manager / Plasmoid seem to have matured a bit.. though the 'graphical' display of available networks is still a mess.
    Special effects <- KDE 4.2 Showing off
    More KDE -> PINK KDE

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    It looks like promising and fare more better the KDE4.2.2

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