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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 05:36 +0000, ausmuso wrote:
    > Are you a regular Beagle user?
    >
    > I had been merrily Linuxing along for years before Beagle appeared on
    > the scene.
    > Upon first arrival Beagle was announced as something of a must-have and
    > I accepted it more or less by reflex.
    > Some month ago I realized that I never used it once. Meanwhile it was
    > hogging my system's resources and slowing things down.
    > So I got rid of it. I haven't missed it once.
    >
    > Am I somehow weird? What about you? Do you really find Beagle that
    > useful?
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    >


    It can be useful... BUT, as far as a content indexing agent, I'm pretty
    sure that most agree that it's one of the worst ones out there. It's
    very buggy. Could stand to be rewritten, or leverage something else
    that already works.



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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:06:01 +0000, eet wrote:

    > Zypper never was written in
    >> Mono. Neither is or was Evolution.
    >>
    >> Please inform yourself before making claims.


    I do consider myself informed, and it is unnecessary to correct a fellow
    community member in a rude manner. If rudeness wasn't intended, fine,
    but that's how it came across, and you might bear that in mind when you
    post future corrections to others' posts.

    That said, I did misspeak about Evolution.

    Zypper's predecessor, "rug" *was* rewritten in Mono. Given the problems
    I had, though, I did make an assumption about it that was apparently
    unwarranted.

    I still stand by my assertion, though, that software running on openSUSE
    that's written in Mono tends to be more resource-hungry and processor-
    hungry than it should be.

    Jim

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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    Quote Originally Posted by eet View Post
    I think it shows that you have uninstalled beagle directly after opensuse installation for the last couple of releases...
    It's disabled ATM
    Because it isn't true anymore
    Well that would be great -- I'll turn it on and wait a while to see -- hopeful.
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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    Considering the amount of people we get on #suse complaining about horrendous performance on their system, that magically gets fixed after removing beagle, I'd say it's still a valid claim.

    I tried beagle on 11.0 with a double quad core xeon and 15k SAS R5 spinners and it still grinded my system to a halt - if this ridicilous power machine cannot handle it, what exactly does it need?

    (On that note, a 2.4GHz Macbook + Spotlight does the same with practically no overhead to speak of)

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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    By the way, the name of the package that gives you the locate and updatedb commands is findutils-locate. I don't know why beagle is installed by default and locate is not.

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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    Quote Originally Posted by giaslamo View Post
    By the way, the name of the package that gives you the locate and updatedb commands is findutils-locate. I don't know why beagle is installed by default and locate is not.
    They have two very different purposes. lLocate finds files, searching system wide, by entering name fragments. The other finds files by searching in your home directories, searches inside files for keywords.

    So they're not even similar applications.
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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by ausmuso View Post
    Are you a regular Beagle user?

    I had been merrily Linuxing along for years before Beagle appeared on the scene.
    Upon first arrival Beagle was announced as something of a must-have and I accepted it more or less by reflex.
    Some month ago I realized that I never used it once. Meanwhile it was hogging my system's resources and slowing things down.
    So I got rid of it. I haven't missed it once.

    Am I somehow weird? What about you? Do you really find Beagle that useful?
    In my view beagle behaves like a DoS-malware. I'm running a Windows XP on an old 64-bit Celeron 2.8 GHz with 1 Gig RAM in a vm (vmware). That's not that fast but for playing poker it is ok. For playing when I'm away from home I copied that machine to my new notebook which has a Dual Core P7350 2 Ghz with 4 Gig RAM. Huh, that should be much faster but it was very, very, very, very slow. I was wondering why. It's not funny if you see your poker software auto fold AA cause of a lag of time. Grrrrrr! So I looked around and found that little dog. After killing it on my system it runs as fast as expected.

    Bye

    Erik

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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    Beagle-users should check the size of ~/.beagle (which easily hogs several *gigabytes* of diskspace after a while) and then decide if this is worth it.

    I prefer using 'find' and mainly the superfast 'locate'. Command line applications can be very comfortable...

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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    Several responses here already pointed out the fact that beagle is very resource hungry.

    I had bad experience with quite a few Linux machines that were running in unattended mode (continuously capturing data and displaying it as graphical output). In the middle of the night when no techies were around, beagle kicks in and takes up the resources. It caused the output screen to freeze for several seconds and the end-users (who only read the screen output through a glass window) got confused. It was a really tough task to identify this culprit!

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    Default Re: How useful do you find Beagle?

    Quote Originally Posted by eet View Post
    I think it shows that you have uninstalled beagle directly after opensuse installation for the last couple of releases...
    It's disabled ATM
    Because it isn't true anymore
    Well that would be great -- I'll turn it on and wait a while to see -- hopeful.
    Well I tried for you eet. And to-day I disabled it again. IMO the current situation is that resource consumption is above what an average experienced user is prepared to tolerate.
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