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    Default Compiz fails to work in KDE 4.2

    I know that kwin has it's own composite manager but I prefer Compiz because I find it to be faster on my nvidia machine and more mature. I read some threads on the forum indicating that Compiz works out of the openSUSE repositories for 4.2, and it even seems to come pre-installed in 11.1. However, I can't get Compiz to run on my 11.1 install newly updated to KDE 4.2 (I had not tried it on KDE 4.1).

    When I try to switch to Compiz in the Default Applications section of 'Personal Settings' it complains that "the new Window Manager has failed to start"; when I run compiz --replace in the terminal it just sits there doing nothing, giving no error message or anything at all until I close Konsole.

    This doesn't seem to be the same problem I am having as other people are making threads about, being mostly that when they start Compiz after a little why they lose window decorations. In my case Compiz just utterly fails to start. Anyone have any idea what might cause this?

    Incidentally, kwin's graphic effects -do- work and I do have compositing enabled in my xorg.

    Thanks! Any idea at all would be appreciated.

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    Default Re: Compiz fails to work in KDE 4.2

    I think Compiz only works under KDE 4.1.x at the moment. I cannot get the one-click to work without downgrading to KDE 4.1.x. Which I won't
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    Default Re: Compiz fails to work in KDE 4.2

    I have compiz with emerald working in 4.2 by using only the version available from the X11 XGL repo.
    In Yast Software Management > search "compiz" > select the "version" tab in the lower right pane > select XGL repo version for all compiz components.

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    Default Re: Compiz fails to work in KDE 4.2

    But you really do not need compiz under Kde4.2. KWin has almost all effects as compiz has and they are working good.

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    Default Re: Compiz fails to work in KDE 4.2

    Make sure you have the compiz-kde4 package installed as well as compiz
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    this is strange, at home i was able to make copiz working with packages from here :
    Index of /repositories/X11://XGL/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory

    but in office's computer after changing from kwin to compiz window decorations are missing. The only difference is i have done KDE update this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoloMarkIII View Post
    I have compiz with emerald working in 4.2 by using only the version available from the X11 XGL repo.
    In Yast Software Management > search "compiz" > select the "version" tab in the lower right pane > select XGL repo version for all compiz components.
    X11 XGL was already selected for all compiz packages.

    Quote Originally Posted by beli0135 View Post
    But you really do not need compiz under Kde4.2. KWin has almost all effects as compiz has and they are working good.
    As I said in my original post, I am aware of KWin and its effects, I just prefer Compiz. It's far more customizable than KWin, has better more customizable window management plugins (as opposed to simple effects), and it runs faster on my nvidia graphics card (although there was a significant improvement in KWin over 4.1.x and 4.2 -- but it is still not nearly as smooth as Compiz).

    Quote Originally Posted by caf4926 View Post
    Make sure you have the compiz-kde4 package installed as well as compiz
    It's installed -- in fact, it came installed with the 11.1 KDE live CD, which I find surprising since KDE has KWin, and openSUSE doesn't really need two compositing window managers on its live CD, does it?

    Quote Originally Posted by tleskac View Post
    this is strange, at home i was able to make copiz working with packages from here :
    Index of /repositories/X11://XGL/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory

    but in office's computer after changing from kwin to compiz window decorations are missing. The only difference is i have done KDE update this morning.
    I tried installing from compiz-fusion-KDE4.ymp, and then compiz-fusion-all.ymp, and with both Compiz still utterly fails to start or give an error message. Both .ymp files give me the error that they could not install the fusion-icons package, though. Interestingly, now when trying to change window managers to Compiz in the Default Applications section of settings, it doesn't even tell me that Compiz fails to start -- it just sits there for 20 seconds doing absolutely nothing.

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    Default Re: Compiz fails to work in KDE 4.2

    OK.

    There seems to be some confusion. You do NOT need to install compiz as an add on (oneclick or anything else)
    Compiz packages are included natively with kde4, that is all you need. Adding anything else is likely to cause issues.

    Your window manager should be kwin and compiz effects are enable by checking desktop effects in the Config Desktop utility.
    All effects option enables you to adjust settings in detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorjelly View Post
    I know that kwin has it's own composite manager but I prefer Compiz because I find it to be faster on my nvidia machine and more mature. I read some threads on the forum indicating that Compiz works out of the openSUSE repositories for 4.2, and it even seems to come pre-installed in 11.1. However, I can't get Compiz to run on my 11.1 install newly updated to KDE 4.2 (I had not tried it on KDE 4.1).

    When I try to switch to Compiz in the Default Applications section of 'Personal Settings' it complains that "the new Window Manager has failed to start"; when I run compiz --replace in the terminal it just sits there doing nothing, giving no error message or anything at all until I close Konsole.

    This doesn't seem to be the same problem I am having as other people are making threads about, being mostly that when they start Compiz after a little why they lose window decorations. In my case Compiz just utterly fails to start. Anyone have any idea what might cause this?

    Incidentally, kwin's graphic effects -do- work and I do have compositing enabled in my xorg.

    Thanks! Any idea at all would be appreciated.
    Try to install the compiz-fusion icon then use it when you see it in the system tray look for the choices for the window manager switch. You will have selections like kwin, compiz, icewm or xfwm4. You can run kwin or compiz and others selecting those. Just right click the mouse in the compiz-fusion icon in the system tray and you will see those options.
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    Default Re: Compiz fails to work in KDE 4.2

    I'm running Compiz Fusion on two KDE 4.2 machines <see my sig> a desktop box, and my lappy, but it wasn't easy figuring out the right combo.

    I totally boned my desktop machine by deleting Compiz Fusion and trying to reinstall it (manually) via the repos! LoL! I wanted to see what would happen if I did this, and I found out (the hard way)...

    I finally got it working again, after two days of frustration. The trick was to install Compiz Fusion via 1-click:

    Compiz Fusion - openSUSE

    That got me in the ballpark!

    The second thing I learned was to NOT use CompizConfig Setting Manager, nor Simple-CCSM to manipulate the settings. Every time I saved the settings using those apps, it screwed the pooch. Instead, I use the native Personal Settings -> Desktop -> Look & Feel -> Desktop Effects method exclusively, and it's NEVER caused a problem. The settings work as desired, and they 'stick' around, e.g. features don't magically turn themselves off after a few minutes, or the next reboot, et cetera.

    Using this combination, I get stunning 3D desktop effects - the spinning desktop cube and the whole nine yards - on my desktop box, and even my lowly laptop!
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