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    johnsood NNTP User

    Question Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    I am new to openSuse though familiar with other distros. Installed 11.1-KDE from CD.

    When I try to install something from yast, it lists a hell lot of other things which it wants to install alongwith which are not related to the stuff I wanted. That list contains Openoffice-template-presentations, help, thesaurus etc which I never asked to install.

    Now, when I install the same from CLI (with zypper), it installs clean. Nothing extra.

    For any package, Yast2 wants to install those files. But everything works great from zypper.

    I tried the dependency check from the yast2 menu, it says everything is perfect. Still it wants to install those.

    Any idea?

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    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    Zypper installs the same dependencies, it just doesn't show them to you. It *looks* cleaner. The dependencies are specified in the RPM itself.

    There's a good discussion of it in this thread.

    http://forums.opensuse.org/install-b...pper-yast.html
    Last edited by smpoole7; 29-Jan-2009 at 05:45. Reason: added link to an older thread

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    johnsood NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    Thanks smpoole7 for you reply. Read that tread.

    But I think this is not the case. For example, I tried to install 'yakuake' from yast, it tell me to install those extra baggages. They call it autoinstall. But, from zypper, it just installed that package, nothing else. This thing happens with some other packages I want to install. From CLI they got installed though. Yast always throws the same list. Since I have a expensive internet connection, I didn't say yes.

    Another thing is, even if I just open Yast2 and hit 'Accept' (without doing any changes), then also it shows the same list.

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    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    Then I obviously don't understand all I know about Yast's software installer!

    Someone else needs to pipe up. The way I learned it, dependencies are specified in the RPM. Unless ... what options are you giving to zypper at the command line?

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    johnsood NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    Quote Originally Posted by smpoole7 View Post
    Then I obviously don't understand all I know about Yast's software installer!
    I am a bit lost here too.


    Quote Originally Posted by smpoole7 View Post
    Someone else needs to pipe up. The way I learned it, dependencies are specified in the RPM. Unless ...
    Even i knew the same. If both zypper and yast told me that I need to install X Y Z packages to resolve dependencies, I would have felt better. Also, when I ask yast to check dependencies (from the menu), it tells me everything alright!

    Quote Originally Posted by smpoole7 View Post
    what options are you giving to zypper at the command line?
    Nothing extra. zypper install yakuake ... like that.

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    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    well going through the topic i found something similar.i usually use xfce.but i liked the gwenviewer of kde4.so i installed it from yast2.i thought may be it will require kde runtime envi files and lib files.it gave me a huge list as dependencies.when i checked the list i was a bit confused to find google gadgets for kde4,gstreamer and a hell lot of extras which i did not want.but i did not give it a second thought and i did not try it with zypper though.after the instalation i had a full kde4 installation.looks like i will use only zypper from now on.....
    Sri Krishna

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    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    I think all these packages are forced for install by YaST, because you installed the system from the LiveCD. They are standard for the system, and automatically installed from the DVD. But because there is not enough space for them on the LiveCD, YaST is trying to obtain them online.

    So, no matter what are you trying to install, the first time you run YaST, it will suggest them automatically.

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    johnsood NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    Thanks Usleble for your reply.

    Yes, that seems to be the case. I was suspecting that since I've installed from live CD, there are some pending items in the queue. But then I think zypper should have told me the same thing. Anyway... not liking the package management though I think zypper is an excellent tool.

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    johnsood NNTP User

    Default Re: Yast2 tries to install unwanted packages

    Yes, that's what. I never knew a thesaurus or presentation templates for openoffice is that important for a system :-). yast force me to install those.

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