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  1. #121
    josephkk NNTP User

    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:06:01 GMT, Seaumas2
    <Seaumas2@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    >No. They are two siblings that have different talents. Gnome is
    >easier, simpler, is less configurable, has a much smaller app repository
    >is and more attractive than KDE and its all true. KDE is powerful,
    >highly configurable, tougher, has the almost bottomless MUON default
    >repository, which is availble for Gnome, uses the Dolphin desktop and
    >uses Konsole, a Terminal emulator that is more facile. KDE's like each
    >other and going from one to the other is an adventure and one is at
    >least in familair territory because of KDE's stable structure. Zorin
    >7 is about as different from Ubuntu 13.10 as I think it can get and I
    >think Zorin is a Linux user's dream come true.



    >Gnome is like the family
    >Lexus SUV. KDE is an Aston Martin Vanquish.


    I think you got the comparison bass-ackwards. Or at least sideways.
    KDE is the heavy DE and Gnome is lighter weight. KDE is powerful but it
    tends to be a bit ponderous, kind of like a Catepillar truck. Just the
    same i use KDE3.

    ?-)

    >Because of its facility
    >and configurability Linus prefers a KDE. That is where it stands for
    >now. KDE's edge. But wait until next year for the next Gnome distros.


  2. #122
    josephkk NNTP User

    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:23:07 GMT, "Carlos E. R."
    <robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >On 2014-01-18 20:06, nrickert wrote:
    >>
    >> robin_listas;2617202 Wrote:
    >>> Ah, but with age often comes a dislike or distrust of change. I know I
    >>> do.

    >>
    >> I sometimes call myself a "hi-tech Luddite". Maybe that also fits you.

    >
    >Perhaps...
    >There are changes I like, changes I don't. I'm selective. I don't like
    >new gadgets just because they are new.


    Me three.
    >
    >I thought I would never have an ebook reader, and I do; I actually use
    >it a lot. I thought I would never have a smartphone, and I got one, and
    >I like it. I don't have surplus money, so even if I like gadgets I just
    >can't afford what I would like to have.


    I am still experimenting in that range. I have a borrowed smart phone that
    i am really starting to like.
    >
    >But I know people very proficient on the IT field that refuse to
    >modernize their cell-phones...


    Perhaps you could start reading comp.risks as i suspect that they do. I
    have been reading it for about 30 years now, good stuff. You may have to
    get a real newsreader and account for that though.

    ?-)

  3. #123
    josephkk NNTP User

    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:15:57 GMT, Jim Henderson
    <hendersj@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    >Someone coming to Linux while KDE3 was current will see KDE3 as "a
    >natural part of the way the world works."
    >
    >In the lead-up to the KDE4 release, those who started with KDE3 in the
    >months leading up to KDE4 may see KDE4 as "new and exciting and
    >revolutionary" (certainly the developers saw it that way, so maybe not a
    >time factor, but a proximity to the development in this case).
    >
    >Those who had used KDE3 since KDE2 was 'retired' largely declared
    >unambiguously that KDE4 was against the natural order of things.


    Actually my gripe about KDE4 is most of it didn't work right for a couple
    of years. In the meantime i have permanently reverted to KDE3. I _do not
    thank_ openSuse for trying to force it down my throat from 11.2 through
    12.2. Way too much broken stuff. It is a major reason i would NOT update
    my many 11.1 installations for a long time, now i am playing "catch up".
    Still preferring KDE3.

    ?-)

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    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    On 2014-01-18 20:15, Jim Henderson wrote:
    > On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:48:07 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:



    >> Ah, but with age often comes a dislike or distrust of change. I know I
    >> do.

    >
    > That's not a function of age, really. It's a function of circumstance,
    > of which age is but one factor.
    >
    > I've known people in their early 20s who have resisted change. I've long
    > theorized that people can only deal with so much change. People in IT
    > deal with a huge amount of change, so other parts of their lives seem to
    > need to be pretty stable so there's something relatively unchanging to
    > hang on to.


    Ah, that's an interesting point.

    > Douglas Adams wrote about it (as a function of age), and while I think
    > his premise was good, the age factor wasn't the important factor to
    > consider. He wrote:
    >
    > “I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to
    > technologies:
    > 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary
    > and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
    > 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five
    > is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career
    > in it.
    > 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural
    > order of things.”


    :-))

    > I would dispute the age dates as being more individual, but in principle,
    > people tend to classify technologies in this manner based on some
    > criteria.


    Quite possibly.


    > I might be inclined to rephrase the timeframes not in terms of a person's
    > age, but a person's familiarity with the technology. For example:
    >
    > Someone coming to Linux while KDE3 was current will see KDE3 as "a
    > natural part of the way the world works."
    >
    > In the lead-up to the KDE4 release, those who started with KDE3 in the
    > months leading up to KDE4 may see KDE4 as "new and exciting and
    > revolutionary" (certainly the developers saw it that way, so maybe not a
    > time factor, but a proximity to the development in this case).
    >
    > Those who had used KDE3 since KDE2 was 'retired' largely declared
    > unambiguously that KDE4 was against the natural order of things.


    It is a point, yes.

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    Carlos E. R.
    (from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)

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    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 05:50:30 +0000, josephkk wrote:

    > Actually my gripe about KDE4 is most of it didn't work right for a
    > couple of years.


    Sure, and a lot of people had those problems, but my point wasn't to
    highlight that issue, it was to highlight that there were a /lot/ of
    complaints about the 'activities' paradigm and the shift in design.

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    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    On 2014-01-20 06:41, josephkk wrote:
    > On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:23:07 GMT, "Carlos E. R." <> wrote:



    >> But I know people very proficient on the IT field that refuse to
    >> modernize their cell-phones...

    >
    > Perhaps you could start reading comp.risks as i suspect that they do. I
    > have been reading it for about 30 years now, good stuff. You may have to
    > get a real newsreader and account for that though.
    >
    > ?-)


    I was thinking of some one I know that says he sees enough technology on
    the job, and at home he wants none. He doesn't even own a cell phone. He
    wants rest.

    Now that he has kids, he is starting to get things for home like
    computers, internet, games, tablet... (which he doesn't personally use,
    I believe) :-)

    --
    Cheers / Saludos,

    Carlos E. R.

    (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith))

  7. #127

    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    Well I too was around from the KDE 3 to 4 transition and boy it was a mess.
    Nowadays though KDE4 is fantastic practically just as good as KDE3 if not better.
    As for any fears about KDE5 no dont have them as overall from what I know of the plans it wont do what KDE4 or gnome shell did and totally make us all mad by its total changeover.
    Though if it does I do hope cinnamon catches up on openSUSE

  8. #128

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    I never liked KDE4. How from a user perspective, that is, someone who actually tries to accomplish business/professional related tasks on a computer as needed, does KDE4 improve this ability over KDE3? That whole wallet design with KDE4 is bizarre - it's nonsense really.

    GNOME in general, seems more user friendly than KDE, because it seems more lightweight, and basic functions such as bluetooth and wireless seem to be more reliable under GNOME. That's my take.

  9. #129

    Default Re: GNOME is better than KDE

    Quote Originally Posted by BSDuser View Post
    I never liked KDE4. How from a user perspective, that is, someone who actually tries to accomplish business/professional related tasks on a computer as needed, does KDE4 improve this ability over KDE3? That whole wallet design with KDE4 is bizarre - it's nonsense really.

    GNOME in general, seems more user friendly than KDE, because it seems more lightweight, and basic functions such as bluetooth and wireless seem to be more reliable under GNOME. That's my take.
    Yes but I am referring to the current Gnome as in my opinion Gnome shell is a horrible mess where features are taken away instead of added and the project itself seems to be ran by people who want to make it into an iphone clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanRB View Post
    Yes but I am referring to the current Gnome as in my opinion Gnome shell is a horrible mess where features are taken away instead of added and the project itself seems to be ran by people who want to make it into an iphone clone.
    Given the rapidly growing popularity, power, convenience, and lower "cost of entry" for smart phones and tablets i.e mobile devices with touch screens, why wouldn't Gnome and KDE developers want to adapt their interfaces to accommodate those devices?
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