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    Default Transition back to a Linux desktop again

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    Good evening,

    Like many I've given Vista a whirl and although it's quite stable now with SP1 I just don't feel comfortable working in it. It runs on a AMD64 X2 3800+ with 2 gigs of ram. The performance is about the equivalent to running Apple OS 10.5 on a white G5 iMac. It runs but a bit sluggish.

    Right now I use mostly Adobe applications at work. Namely InDesign, Dreamweaver, and Photoshop cs3. I have access to these at work any time I wish and while I still like Dreamweaver cs3' intigration with Photoshop (they work very well together) I'm trying to ween myself away from that when working on my own at home. Using instead GIMP or Inkscape with marginal success and attempting to work with Aptana as a replacement for Dreamweaver. I really like Aptana so far, but it is a bit confusing getting used to the working environment.

    I'm at a point right now where the majority of the applications I use on my Vista system are opensource and available on other platforms including Linux and even Apple. My question is this:

    Performance wise, will opensuse excel in comparison to Vista or is what I have read partially true in that 11.1 is a bit buggy to be considered production worthy?
    The second question is about upgrading.
    I want to find a distribution that I can install and not have to worry about a clean install with each release. I understand separation of the /home partition to save data for a new install, but I would really like to avoid a reinstall at new release time if at all possible.

    If anyone thinks I would have better luck with another distrobution I would love to hear recommendations outside of Ubuntu (I'm just plain old 'buntu'ed out.)

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    Default Re: Transition back to a Linux desktop again

    If you dislike installing a new version you might want to try a distribution which has support for a longer period of time, like SLED.

    Also don't forget, you're not forced to upgrade when there is a new version out, openSUSE 10.3 is still supported afaik. So if you were to install 11.1 you wouldn't -have- to upgrade any time too soon.

    openSUSE does offer an upgrade option, the successrate of a 'fresh' install maintaining the home folder seems to have a higher success rate though.

    As for sluggish.. I think that's an issue of the past, as the NVIDIA drivers were rather slow before.. but all desktops environments including KDE4 are fast to respond now.
    Special effects <- KDE 4.2 Showing off
    More KDE -> PINK KDE

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    Default Re: Transition back to a Linux desktop again

    You might look into Virtualbox. I use MS Access a bit at work and I need it on my home computer for those times I bring work home. I also keep Photoshop CS3 on there as well. There's no reason not to use those applications if that is what you need to be productive.

    As for openSuse 11.1.....I run it. It does have a few bugs but none are showstoppers. I highly recommend it. I have been more productive with openSuse than I ever have been with Windows.

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    Yosuf Mossad Mohammed Vitriolus NNTP User

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    > 11.1 is a bit buggy to be considered production worthy?

    If you need "production worthy" stability Novell/SUSE has two choices:

    SUSE Enterprise Level Desktop (SLED)
    SUSE Engerprise Level Server (SLES)

    if, however, you wanna take some RISK your "production environment"
    might die with the next update, you can go with openSUSE 10.3 with
    KDE3 or GNOME...

    however, you canNOT use any openSUSE 11.x variation with any
    confidence that it is commercial/production ready software...it is
    kinda like Vista in that regard..

    YMMV (others may have a different opinion--pick the one with the risk
    *your* production can accept)

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    Default Re: Transition back to a Linux desktop again

    I appreciate all the feedback. It's cleared some things up for me.
    For now I'm still exploring other options and keeping opensuse in heavy consideration.
    I've decided the best option for me would be a Linux based desktop with a virtual xp system running inside. I gave Virtualbox a run today and was really impressed with it's performance with an XP guest. VMware server was alright, but the web interface put me off a bit.

    The part that am having trouble with is finding a distribution that I am attracted do that isn't a test bed for enterprise level retail solutions. I gave Debain a go as well, but got nothing but snippy remarks for trying to do something outside of the free software provided. Ubuntu..well Ubuntu just seems to be turning into a big mess in the last few releases.
    While I've been reading and asking questions I've noticed that Linux seems to be marketed as a stable solution yet I get told over and over again how "distro-x y and z" aren't meant to be used as a stable working environment and that there are bugs/issues/new software are still in need of heavy development to be production worthy. I suppose this is correct when considering that I would be using two environments on one computer and that my work would in fact be on that system. It's funny in an odd way but the only reply that I've gotten where stability was evangelized with the suggestion as a solution was....Slackware. Yes, Slackware of all things. I have experience with Slackware in the 8.x and 9.x days but wow, I never thought I would be going around full circle again.

    Anyways, thank you everyone for your input and suggestions. I will look more into opensuse in the near future and actually hope to find it to be the solution I have been looking for. Visually I find it quite stunning.

    Thanks everyone for the help and suggestions!

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    Kevin Miller NNTP User

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    factotum218 wrote:
    > Performance wise, will opensuse excel in comparison to Vista or is what
    > I have read partially true in that 11.1 is a bit buggy to be considered
    > production worthy?


    Do you like KDE or gnome (or other)? I tried 11.1 with KDE 4 and was
    thoroughly unimpressed. I found it to be buggy and counterintuitive to
    everything I know about KDE. OK, there's a learning curve. I can live
    w/that, but the bugs were pretty gnarly and it looked like they were
    going to be fixed in the next release, but not backported.

    I reinstalled w/KDE 3.5 and it is much better. It seems a bit sluggish,
    but it's not on my regular machine, so I'm not sure how much of that is
    due to 11.1 and how much is the particular machine. I expect gnome
    would be fine as well, but can't speak from experience there.

    On anohter note, FWIW, there are non-free Debian repositories, so you
    should be able to run it w/o too many issues. Might have to pick your
    support forums carefully though! <g>

    HTH...

    ....Kevin
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    Kevin Miller
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