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    Hi

    I have started to use OpenSUSE after experimenting with lots of other distros, and as a beginner have found all of my questions in other forums. However I cannot find anything specific enough (or that works for a couple of questions.

    I installed 11.1 Gnome and played around with it but a few things kept cropping up, so I thought I would try the 11.1 KDE. I would like to stick with the KDE version but I am having a few problems. i would be grateful of any advice for the following:

    1: I am running a NVidia GeForce 6100 Graphics card. Using gnome I installed the 2 drivers from the Nvidia repro as recommended (GFX G02 option as this worked under Gnome). When I reboot all the titlebars are missing, my keyboard only works in certain software, and the wifi dissapears completely. I have tried the options 'default' and 'GFX G01' and this only logs in as root without any graphical interface.

    2: Amarok - I wanted to use version 2.0 but it does not recognise any of my music files (formerly from iTunes). Version 1.5 seems to recognise and play them all. the only thing it does pick up (and play) are the BBC podcasts.

    3: Being new to Linux I am unsure of how it works in comparison to Vista. Does linux have Internet security type suites built in or do I need to install extra software like I would in Windows.

    Thanks
    Kacy

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    1. I recently installed 11.1 on an old board with a geforce 6100 and found 'manually' installing the driver available on nvidia's site worked better than those from the repo, I used the latest version. Having said that there were a few things that didnt work to my liking, suse 11 ran perfectly on the same board

    2. Did you install amarok-xine and change the engine to xine in amarok's settings? That usually works for me with mp3s etc, though itunes format I've never used, but I'm sure someone on the forum uses itunes files with amarok 2.0, lets hope they post if switching the engine to xine doesn't work for you

    3. Suse has it's own firewall as well as Novell AppArmor, you don't really need to install anything else although you might wish to use clamav and spamassassin in conjuction with your mails, if you use kmail and install both clamav and klamav you'll find that klamav has a tool for integrating clamav with kmail that's VERY simple, just one mouse click

    Linux just isn't susceptible to infections in the same way as windoze, many people hold the view that linux can't be infected by viruses but that's a whole other subject, just relax in the knowledge that the minute you switched to suse from vista you eliminated almost all risk of malware problems

    There are other firewalls you could install but I'm not sure that any of them are any better than suse's own built-in one, plenty of people are running servers behind suse's own firewall so it should certainly be ample for a purely desktop machine. I've ran suse since version 10.2 as both server and desktop on nothing but what suse comes with, as well as the firewall in my router, without any problems whatsoever ... at least none that I'm aware of

    There are people far more knowledgeable than me on security issues using the forum but I'm sure they'll tell you that the above is basically correct even though I don't doubt they could go into far greater detail

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    Thanks for the reply Ecky.

    Nvidia - I am attempting to manually install the driver. I have played around with root commands (as I know none) and have eventually got the .run file to start up. It says it can't find the driver and needs to access the internet to find it.

    As I have to execute the .run file with no x server, what command do I use to start a network connection prior to executing the file to give access the the internet.

    Amarok - I could not find an option in 2.0 to change the engine to xine. Unlike 1.4.1 where there is a tab for it. I have got the xine installed anyway.

    Thanks for clarifying the security question. This makes sense and confirms what I thought, its only when Windows user fire questions about it I confuse myself.

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    As I have to execute the .run file with no x server, what command do I use to start a network connection prior to executing the file to give access the the internet.
    don't worry, simply say No to looking for pre-compiled drivers/modules on internet and it will start compiling your driver. If you say yes, it won't find them anyway, so it will start compiling the driver anyway.
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    linuxoidoz is spot on, it's the driver's kernel it's looking for on the net and there never is one, it just compiles it all by itself

    One thing though, when the driver install finishes it asks about running nvidia-xconfig to initialise the driver, decline that

    Use this command instead: sax2

    Some will say to use sax2 -r -m 0=nvidia, but simply running sax2 has always worked for me, once sax has run, first type exit to 'un-become' root

    If you get a login prompt, login as the user you configured for yourself when instaling and type: startx

    If you're aready logged in as that user and don't get a login prompt, just type: startx

    That should take you into your desktop

    As for Amarok, to select xine as your engine it should be here: Settings, Configure Amarok, Engine, then you should see a Sound System drop-down box that currently says: Gstreamer/Yauap Engine, see if you can change that to xine

    If you can change it, set it and click Apply, then OK, no need to alter anything else in the options that suddenly appear after clicking Apply

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    I disagree here better to answer yes to all the questions during the install and
    reboot when done

    /Geoff
    Quote Originally Posted by Ecky View Post
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    One thing though, when the driver install finishes it asks about running nvidia-xconfig to initialise the driver, decline that
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    Well using sax2 is the way most suse-nvidia howto pages say to do it, and it's always worked well for me

    But like most things there isn't necessarily one way and one way only that works, one such page does say that it shouldn't be necessary to use sax in suse 11 so one would assume it to be true of 11.1 also

    I suppose it's the way I've become used to after doing it that way for the past few years, and it definitely still does work, I did it that way on a laptop just recently and it's working fine

    Of course, you can just let nvidia-xconfig run and if it was to fail or just plain not have configured things to your liking, still go back and use sax as it would drop you back to a prompt anyway if it did fail

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    I have managed to install the NVIDIA driver manually after following your instructions and installing other bits it needed to run.

    Unfortunately though the Nvidia driver gives the same result as the GFX G02 driver - no titlebars and no keyboard in suse applications, no wifi icon (although I am on internet).

    Any ideas?

    Also if I install anything manually will it appear in the install software application. If not how do you remove, not that I need to (yet), hopefully.

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    Are you using compiz or any other desktop effects.
    If so try disabling it/them

    /Geoff
    Quote Originally Posted by Kacy View Post
    I have managed to install the NVIDIA driver manually after following your instructions and installing other bits it needed to run.

    Unfortunately though the Nvidia driver gives the same result as the GFX G02 driver - no titlebars and no keyboard in suse applications, no wifi icon (although I am on internet).

    Any ideas?

    Also if I install anything manually will it appear in the install software application. If not how do you remove, not that I need to (yet), hopefully.
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    Usually anything you install using an rpm file shows up in Yast's Software Management, to uninstall anything that shows there clear the tick out of the checkbox to to the left of the program name then click the Accept button

    One reason why you wouldn't see a wi-fi icon could be that it's configured to use 'traditional method with ifup', you can check if this is the case in Yast, Network Devices, Network Settings on the Global Options tab

    If it is the case and you really want a connection icon in the tray change 'Traditional method with ifup' to 'User controlled with Netwok Manager' on the Global Options tab and click Finish


    Regards your graphics driver, I don't know whether you checked compiz/desktop effects after geoffro's post or not, but something else to look out for that indicates the nvidia driver is properly installed and initialised is seeing an nvidia splash screen as your machine boots up ... you can't really miss it as it's got a great big green nvidia icon on it, although it can flash by pretty quick on a fast machine

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