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    Default "Available" Update Never Installs

    openSUSE 11.0 Updater keeps telling me that the following patch is available:

    java-1_4_2-sun: 2008 Brazil DST start date change, SLE 10, Sun Java

    However, when I select 'install', the updater immediately goes to "checking for updates". It never installs anything.

    Even worse, when there are multiple patches available, they won't install unless I deselect that java patch.

    I'm far from an expert on the admin tools, so forgive my ignorance, but how can I find out why this patch is being presented, and why the install is failing?

    Thanks -- Allen

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    Join Date
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    South Yorkshire, United Kingdom

    Default Re: "Available" Update Never Installs

    I've had this problem with a number of updates from time to time. I usually find that using zypper to install the updates resolves the problem.

    If you wish to try it enter the following in a terminal
    sudo zypper up
    Enter your root password and away you go. More on Zypper here:-
    Zypper Usage

    N.B: I've also read that sometimes just waiting a few days can sort out the problem.
    Linux using monkey

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    Nov 2008

    Default Re: "Available" Update Never Installs

    Hello Freefiber;

    Using 10.3 and was chasing something like this around like a mouse in a maze.

    The last thing was a reboot that solved it. No mention was ever present that explained the need to reboot so kept right on chasing.

    Good luck
    SuSe 10.3/Dual Boot-XP Laptop

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    I want to thank you for your sound advise on this topic, As I had a few Kernel Updates that would not install as well.

    I forgot out the zypper command. I ran it and it fixed my kernel problem

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    Default Re: "Available" Update Never Installs

    To my surprise, the problem has disappeared without a reboot or other action on my part (except posting this question). Regardless, I appreciate your help in case this problem recurs.

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    Default Re: "Available" Update Never Installs

    I have the exact same problem as freefiber, except that the java-1_4_2-sun package was never installed.

    So why is the updater flagging this as a required update? There's a bug somewhere.

    Also it keeps insisting that I need to patch kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger even though it's uninstalled.

    This has been going on for a while now -- a few weeks I think.

    Is there a way to make the packager manager regain sanity, so to speak?

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    mtgucs NNTP User

    Default "Available" Update Never Installs - Brazil DST problem

    I have the same Brazil update problem as freefiber and amarjam, with the following modifications:

    (1) The Brazil update is the only one failing. My other updates succeed even with Brazil selected. Sometimes I have to wait for the repositories to update, but that self-resolves over time with only the Brazil DST update remaining as the annoyance.

    (2) I ran zypper up with the following results:

    linux-xion:/home/mtgucs # zypper up
    Reading installed packages...

    Problem: patch:java-1_4_2-sun-299.noarch conflicts with java-1_5_0-sun-plugin.i586 < 1.5.0_update16-1.3 provided by java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update16-1.1.i586

    Solution 1: do not keep java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update16-1.1.i586 installed
    Solution 2: do not install patch:java-1_4_2-sun-299.noarch

    Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/C]: 2
    Resolving dependencies...
    Nothing to do.

    (3) Whaddya mean, nothing to do?

    (4) I probably, but can't be sure, tried to install java-1_4_2 in order to get Java on my browsers (still not working btw, different complaint - different thread). So somewhere in the technosludge of my hard drive is a reference to java-1_4 that openSUSE update is seeing, but which no longer exists.

    (5) Here is my update-alternatives output:

    linux-xion:/home/mtgucs # update-alternatives --config java

    There are 3 programs which provide `java'.

    Selection Command
    * 1 /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-sun/bin/java
    2 /usr/lib/jvm/jre-1.5.0-sun/bin/java
    + 3 /usr/lib64/jvm/jre-1.6.0-openjdk/bin/java

    Enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number:*
    linux-xion:/home/mtgucs #

    (6) Suggestions? Purge Java completely, and will that get rid of the lingering reference to Java-1_4? Edit the package manager reference to Java-1_4? Cancel my ticket to Rio?


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    Join Date
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    San Diego, Ca, USA
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    Default Re: "Available" Update Never Installs

    First in reply to the OP,

    I've found that when the YOU (Yast Online Update) stalls, I can resolve by opening up Yast, then running the Update manually selecting maybe a dozen or so updates at a time. I suspect that contention is related to the number of updates downloaded or installed at once and maybe could be resolved by either throttling or better thread control.

    As for the Java issue, I do recommend uninstalling any version of Java you don't need (In my experience if installed from the SuSE repos Java packages uninstall completely and properly). I can't imagine patching a version of Java that's not currently used can be good, and I doubt that ordinarily there should be any good reason to be running Java 1.4 any more.

    In fact, I wonder about your Java 1.4. Since it doesn't show up in your update-alternatives I suspect you may not have installed it from the SuSE repos. When using update-alternatives it only works with Java installed in the bin directory, when you install Java from the Sun website, it installs in a different directory and is manually installed (BTW - Uninstalling can require manually removing those manual configurations wherever they are... eg Profile).

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    Jun 2008

    Default Re: "Available" Update Never Installs

    The never updating update for me is fileshareset.

    I'm hoping I can make it go away tomorrow by installing 11.1
    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C. Clarke

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    Default same problem with fileshareset

    Online update keeps notifying me that there are two updates available:

    Neither application is installed, according to YAST.

    The updates will not install. Rather the update notifier simply opens a new notice that the same two updates are available.

    I've tried rebooting, logging out/in, &
    as su:
    rpmdb --rebuilddb
    zypper refresh
    zypper up

    the last command only shows:

    Reading installed packages...

    The following NEW patches are going to be installed:
    fileshareset kdenetwork3-InstantMessenger

    No additional space will be used or freed after the operation.
    Continue? [YES/no]:

    No matter what I enter ("YES" "yes" "y" "Y"), I am simply dumped back to the command line. Reissuing "zypper up" shows the same update needs to be installed.

    Has anyone had any luck with this?
    Last edited by swamp_yankee; 18-Dec-2008 at 13:10. Reason: Added the fact that neither program is actually installed on my machine

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