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    Default Learning about Blackberry and openSUSE - neat

    Telephones and I don't get along.

    I was raised in the day of the rotary dial phone, and I always considered the new "pulse dial" pretty high tech ... I struggle with any new features in a phone, ... and it gives my wife (and friends) no end of amusement. ... Even to this day where home computers have the power of yesterday's supercomputers, and even in this day and age of a permanently manned space station orbiting the earth (where rich tourists can visit), do I still find even the most basic phone technology amazing.

    The past 7 years I've carried on old Nokia 3310 around with me. I could not use 1/2 of its features, but it "just worked" for answering phone calls, and making phone calls. I've religiously avoided all efforts at home, at work, and from friends, to encourage me to go for a new phone.

    Well, no more.

    All our engineers/management who are on-call (where I work) have been issued Blackberries and we are required to carry these with us.

    So this weekend I sat down and started to read the manual.

    ... Amazing ... simply amazing ... (and I'm told the iPhone is even better).

    I am still not sure I can properly answer the phone (if called), but I plugged the USB cable from the Blackberry to my openSUSE-10.3 PC, selected the Removeable Storage mode (or what ever its called) and I was able to access the 2GByte memory card in the Blackberry. I managed to copy some videos to it (and play them) and also copy a bunch of songs from various audio CDs kicking around the house (that I backed up electronically).

    That simple KDE drag and drop (with konqueror) from my openSUSE-10.3 to the appropriate Blackberry directory just worked. ... and I'm truly impressed with this capability.

    The screen is kind of small for watching movies, but I can see it being very useful when on a train, or on the bus, or waiting at the doctor's office ...

    Impressive ! ... and maybe one can teach an old dog new tricks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu
    Telephones and I don't get along.

    I was raised in the day of the rotary dial phone, and I always
    considered the new "pulse dial" pretty high tech ... I struggle with any
    new features in a phone, ... and it gives my wife (and friends) no end
    of amusement. ... Even to this day where home computers have the
    power of yesterday's supercomputers, and even in this day and age of a
    permanently manned space station orbiting the earth (where rich tourists
    can visit), do I still find even the most basic phone technology
    amazing.

    The past 7 years I've carried on old Nokia 3310 around with me. I
    could not use 1/2 of its features, but it "just worked" for answering
    phone calls, and making phone calls. I've religiously avoided all
    efforts at home, at work, and from friends, to encourage me to go for a
    new phone.

    Well, no more.

    All our engineers/management who are on-call (where I work) have been
    issued Blackberries and we are required to carry these with us.

    So this weekend I sat down and started to read the manual.

    ... Amazing ... simply amazing ... (and I'm told the iPhone is even
    better).

    I am still not sure I can properly answer the phone (if called), but I
    plugged the USB cable from the Blackberry to my openSUSE-10.3 PC,
    selected the Removeable Storage mode (or what ever its called) and I was
    able to access the 2GByte memory card in the Blackberry. I managed to
    copy some videos to it (and play them) and also copy a bunch of songs
    from various audio CDs kicking around the house (that I backed up
    electronically).

    That simple KDE drag and drop (with konqueror) from my openSUSE-10.3 to
    the appropriate Blackberry directory just worked. ... and I'm truly
    impressed with this capability.

    The screen is kind of small for watching movies, but I can see it being
    very useful when on a train, or on the bus, or waiting at the doctor's
    office ...

    Impressive ! ... and maybe one can teach an old dog new tricks.

    Hi
    See, now it probably has bluetooth and that notebook your looking at
    will have to have bluetooth....

    I have an 8830e, I use a program called sharkmodem (ipp proxy) to
    connect to the internet via windows (Phone carrier issue), have yet to
    get the "barry" program to connect for an extended period of time on
    linux But it does get the phone charging at 500mA and can backup
    contacts etc.

    Have a look over in the Blackberry forums there is a far amount of
    linux info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Have a look over in the Blackberry forums there is a far amount of linux info.
    Indeed, lots there. I so much of a newbie in this that 90% of the stuff on that forum I do not understand. I did note the scripts for converting a video to a file format that the black berry will accept. http://www.blackberryforums.com/linu...te-videos.html

    The script at the top of the page, needs an edit to work with MPlayer as compiled by packman. That explanation is given later in the same thread. The overall script that I believe functions with Pacman packaged MPlayer (and mencoder) is:
    Code:
    #!/bin/bash
    
    FILE=$1
    
    ## 8100, 240x260 res
    ## uncomment one of the below depending on your input format
    #RES=240:135             # resolution, 16:9 ratio
    RES=240:180             # resolution, 4:3 ratio
    
    ## 8800, 320x240 res
    ## uncomment one of the below depending on your input format
    #RES=320:180             # resolution, 16:9 ratio
    #RES=240:180             # resolution, 4:3 ratio
    
    ## generic
    ABR=64                  # audio bitrate
    VBR=230                 # video bitrate
    
    mencoder "$FILE" \
            -o "${FILE%.*}_bb.avi" \
            -of avi \
            -ovc lavc \
            -oac mp3lame \
            -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=$VBR \
            -lameopts abr:br=$ABR \
            -vf scale=$RES
    I'm testing it now against a short movie, and I'll post here, noting if it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    I'm testing it now against a short movie, and I'll post here, noting if it works.
    That script did not work for me (ie did not create a video that the blackberry would play). ... I need to research this some more to figure out why.

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    Because if you encode with lavc's mpeg4 codec, it will use as fourcc FMP4 which is not recognized by most hard or software players. You need to change the fourcc to either divx or xvid with -ffourcc DX50 or -ffourcc XVID or -ffourcc DIVX

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu
    oldcpu;1893798 Wrote:
    > I'm testing it now against a short movie, and I'll post here, noting
    > if it works.That script did not work for me (ie did not create a
    > video that the

    blackberry would play). ... I need to research this some more to figure
    out why.
    Hi
    For the Treo650 I had I used ffmpeg, maybe you need to look at that. I
    converted full length dvds by using mplayer to dump the stream then
    convert to around 250MB for 312x176. My NCIS ones were about 90MB per
    episode.

    Code:
    mplayer dvd://<track#> -dvd-device /dev/cdrecorder -dumpstream
    
    ffmpeg -i <inputfilename> -r 25 -f avi -vcodec xvid -map 0.0:0.0 -map
    0.3:0.1 -s 312x176 <outputfilename>.avi
    The mapping was to get the english audio for the second map command and
    varies from dvd, so I just played the dumpstream file briefly to work
    out which one.

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    Thanks for the suggestions.

    There are some real neat command line options there.

    It appear, though, the problem is elsewhere, and I think the script does work. BUT my employer appears to have the blackberry locked to a 15MByte/file limitation for multimedia. Given this is supposed to be used for work, I can't figure out why they would do that .

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    * oldcpu wrote, On 11/09/2008 08:36 PM:
    > BUT my employer appears to have the blackberry locked to a
    > 15MByte/file limitation for multimedia.


    Consider yourself lucky. I'm the BES admin here and I don't allow *any* multimedia distraction :-P

    Uwe

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckesfeld View Post
    Consider yourself lucky. I'm the BES admin here and I don't allow *any* multimedia distraction
    Indeed. I am very fortunate to be employed at the place where I work. The organization is very operational, and as long as the job gets done properly (to a very high standard), then the organization is also fairly lenient in other aspects.

    I did confirm that the problem is the player on the blackberry model that I am using. I successfully played many music videos that are about 9 to 11 MBytes in length, and I converted them to a playable format using the above script. That player will only play files that are less than 15MBytes. So I am think now that this is not a "management" restriction causing a limitation, but rather this is a Blackberry application limitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    It appear, though, the problem is elsewhere, and I think the script does work. BUT my employer appears to have the blackberry locked to a 15MByte/file limitation for multimedia.
    I've now determined there is not a 15MByte file limitation. ....

    There recently was an office controlled reconfiguration of the blackberry, and after that reconfiguration, I was able to play a 100 MByte video file (converted by an MS-Windows) app on the blackberry. I need now to
    • retry my originally videos using the Linux conversion method (to see if the office blackberry reconfig is the reason long videos now work) or
    • compare the video specs of the MS Windows converted video with the previous linux converted video apps to see if there is a difference explaining why the Linux script converted app did not work.

    I note the MS-Windows app was using mplayer's mencoder in the background, and the Linux script also uses mencoder, and I also noted the audio/video codecs are the same, so if there is a difference, it is likely in the bitrate.

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