HDD heats up fast

Cross_AM · November 5, 2008, 9:29pm

Hello

My laptop HDD reaches 190 degrees temperature and SUSE shows a message within 45 minutes of usage. Is my fan somehow not detected? Please suggest.

Thank you.

Cross_AM · November 6, 2008, 2:35pm

Cross_AM wrote:
> Hello
>
> My laptop HDD reaches 190 degrees temperature and SUSE shows a message within 45 minutes of usage. Is my fan somehow not detected? Please suggest.
>
> Thank you.
Help me interpret smartctl output.
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Please note the following marginal Attributes:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
190 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 060 034 045 Old_age Always In_the_past 281471354667048

malcolmlewis · November 6, 2008, 2:42pm

Hi
190 is the ID, normally the raw value in the last column is the
temperature. I would install hddtemp and use that, easier to read

–
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openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 1 day 11:54, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.35, 0.32
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80

Cross_AM · November 6, 2008, 3:15pm

Malcolm wrote:
> Hi
> 190 is the ID, normally the raw value in the last column is the
> temperature. I would install hddtemp and use that, easier to read
>
Thank you. I will do it now. Meanwhile this is what I got from syslog.

Nov 6 19:30:44 linux-ctu3 smartd[3327]: Device: /dev/sda, Failed SMART usage Attribute: 190 Temperature_Celsius.
Nov 6 19:30:44 linux-ctu3 smartd[3327]: Sending warning via /usr/lib/smartmontools/smart-notify to root@localhost …
Nov 6 19:30:44 linux-ctu3 smartd[3327]: Warning via /usr/lib/smartmontools/smart-notify to root@localhost produced unexpected output (68 bytes) to STDOUT/STDERR: method return sender=:1.10 →
dest=:1.27 reply_serial=2 uint16 0
Nov 6 19:30:44 linux-ctu3 smartd[3327]: Warning via /usr/lib/smartmontools/smart-notify to root@localhost: successful
Nov 6 19:30:44 linux-ctu3 smartd[3327]: Device: /dev/sda, SMART Usage Attribute: 190 Temperature_Celsius changed from 69 to 45
Nov 6 19:30:44 linux-ctu3 smartd[3327]: Device: /dev/sda, SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 31 to 55
Nov 6 19:30:44 linux-ctu3 smartd[3327]: Device: /dev/sda, SMART Usage Attribute: 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered changed from 73 to 53

malcolmlewis · November 6, 2008, 3:33pm

[QUOTE=Cross_AM]Malcolm wrote:
> Hi
> 190 is the ID, normally the raw value in the last column is the
> temperature. I would install hddtemp and use that, easier to read
>
Thank you. I will do it now. Meanwhile this is what I got from syslog.
<snip>
Hi
Have you run a full test on the drive with smartctl? If it is looking
suspect, I would make sure to backup and then replace the drive…

Do you have good cooling in place for the drive?

–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 1 day 12:49, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.33, 0.20
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80

Cross_AM · November 6, 2008, 4:27pm

Malcolm wrote:
> [QUOTE=Cross_AM]Malcolm wrote:
>> Hi
>> 190 is the ID, normally the raw value in the last column is the
>> temperature. I would install hddtemp and use that, easier to read
>>
> Thank you. I will do it now. Meanwhile this is what I got from syslog.
> <snip>
> Hi
> Have you run a full test on the drive with smartctl? If it is looking
> suspect, I would make sure to backup and then replace the drive…
>
> Do you have good cooling in place for the drive?
>
Its a laptop. I find temperatures in the range of 58-60 after about 15 minutes usage. Thats I doubt the fan.

Cross_AM · November 6, 2008, 4:29pm

Cross_AM wrote:
> Malcolm wrote:
>> [QUOTE=Cross_AM]Malcolm wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 190 is the ID, normally the raw value in the last column is the
>>> temperature. I would install hddtemp and use that, easier to read
>>>
>> Thank you. I will do it now. Meanwhile this is what I got from syslog.
>> <snip>
>> Hi
>> Have you run a full test on the drive with smartctl? If it is looking
>> suspect, I would make sure to backup and then replace the drive…
>>
>> Do you have good cooling in place for the drive?
>>
> Its a laptop. I find temperatures in the range of 58-60 after about 15 minutes usage. Thats I doubt the fan.
The short test was passes without error. However, I had to abort th long test.

malcolmlewis · November 6, 2008, 4:43pm

Hi
Mine runs at about 35C in this notebook. Does your notebook have any
sensors, you could try running sensors-detect (as root) and maybe it
will pickup the fan speed.

What model laptop?

–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 1 day 13:59, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.19
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80

Cross_AM · November 6, 2008, 6:31pm

Malcolm wrote:
> Its a laptop. I find temperatures in the range of 58-60 after about 15
> minutes usage. Thats I doubt the fan. [/QUOTE]
> Hi
> Mine runs at about 35C in this notebook. Does your notebook have any
> sensors, you could try running sensors-detect (as root) and maybe it
> will pickup the fan speed.
>
> What model laptop?
>

First of all, thank you. I do not have any knowledge of configuration at this level. With your help, I have now got a stable HDD temperature.

Here a snip of the sensors-detect:
Some CPUs or memory controllers may also contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? (YES/no): YES
AMD K8 thermal sensors… No
Intel Core family thermal sensor… Success!
(driver `coretemp’)
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor… No

Now follows a summary of the probes I have just done.
Just press ENTER to continue:

Driver `coretemp’ (should be inserted):
Detects correctly:

Chip `Intel Core family thermal sensor’ (confidence: 9)

I will now generate the commands needed to load the required modules.
Just press ENTER to continue:

To make the sensors modules behave correctly, add these lines to
/etc/modprobe.conf:

#----cut here----

I2C module options

alias char-major-89 i2c-dev
#----cut here----

To load everything that is needed, add this to some /etc/rc* file:

#----cut here----

Chip drivers

modprobe coretemp

sleep 2 # optional

/usr/bin/sensors -s # recommended
#----cut here----

If you have some drivers built into your kernel, the list above will
contain too many modules. Skip the appropriate ones! You really
should try these commands right now to make sure everything is
working properly. Monitoring programs won’t work until the needed
modules are loaded.

Do you want to generate /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors? (YES/no): YES

As per the instruction, i looked up the /etc/modprobe.conf file. I found the line to be already present. However, I do not know what to do with rc* file.

My model is Compaq Presario v6409TU.

malcolmlewis · November 6, 2008, 6:56pm

> Hi
> Mine runs at about 35C in this notebook. Does your notebook have any
> sensors, you could try running sensors-detect (as root) and maybe it
> will pickup the fan speed.
>
> What model laptop?
>

First of all, thank you. I do not have any knowledge of configuration
at this level. With your help, I have now got a stable HDD temperature.

Here a snip of the sensors-detect:
Some CPUs or memory controllers may also contain embedded sensors.
Do you want to scan for them? (YES/no): YES
AMD K8 thermal sensors… No
Intel Core family thermal sensor… Success!
(driver `coretemp’)
Intel AMB FB-DIMM thermal sensor… No

Now follows a summary of the probes I have just done.
Just press ENTER to continue:

Driver `coretemp’ (should be inserted):
Detects correctly:

Chip `Intel Core family thermal sensor’ (confidence: 9)

I will now generate the commands needed to load the required modules.
Just press ENTER to continue:

To make the sensors modules behave correctly, add these lines to
/etc/modprobe.conf:

#----cut here----

I2C module options

alias char-major-89 i2c-dev
#----cut here----

To load everything that is needed, add this to some /etc/rc* file:

#----cut here----

Chip drivers

modprobe coretemp

sleep 2 # optional

/usr/bin/sensors -s # recommended
#----cut here----

If you have some drivers built into your kernel, the list above will
contain too many modules. Skip the appropriate ones! You really
should try these commands right now to make sure everything is
working properly. Monitoring programs won’t work until the needed
modules are loaded.

Do you want to generate /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors? (YES/no): YES

As per the instruction, i looked up the /etc/modprobe.conf file. I
found the line to be already present. However, I do not know what to do
with rc* file.

My model is Compaq Presario v6409TU.
[/QUOTE]
Hi
As a user you should be able to run the command;


sensors

It should show some output, if not just start it and also check to
ensure it’s set to start on boot.


sudo /sbin/modprobe coretemp
sudo /etc/init.d/lm_sensors start
sudo /sbin/chkconfig lm_sensors on

Then try the sensors command again.

If you have the packman repository enable, install hddtemp;


sudo zypper in hddtemp

To run that;


sudo /usr/sbin/hddtemp /dev/sda

Note replace sda with your drive reference…

–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 1 day 16:04, 1 user, load average: 0.36, 0.09, 0.08
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80

Cross_AM · November 6, 2008, 8:03pm

Malcolm wrote:
> Hi
> As a user you should be able to run the command;
>


> sensors
>

It should show some output, if not just start it and also check to
ensure it’s set to start on boot.


> sudo /sbin/modprobe coretemp
> sudo /etc/init.d/lm_sensors start
> sudo /sbin/chkconfig lm_sensors on
>

Then try the sensors command again.

If you have the packman repository enable, install hddtemp;


> sudo zypper in hddtemp
>

To run that;


> sudo /usr/sbin/hddtemp /dev/sda
>

> Note replace sda with your drive reference…
>

The range 58-60C was from hddtemp output. The sensors command shows the temperature of the two CPU cores on my system.
Thank you.

malcolmlewis · November 6, 2008, 8:30pm

Cross_AM:

Malcolm wrote:
> Hi
> As a user you should be able to run the command;
>
> sensors
> 
It should show some output, if not just start it and also check to
ensure it’s set to start on boot.
> sudo /sbin/modprobe coretemp
> sudo /etc/init.d/lm_sensors start
> sudo /sbin/chkconfig lm_sensors on
> 
Then try the sensors command again.

If you have the packman repository enable, install hddtemp;
> sudo zypper in hddtemp
> 
To run that;
> sudo /usr/sbin/hddtemp /dev/sda
> 
> Note replace sda with your drive reference…
>

The range 58-60C was from hddtemp output. The sensors command shows the
temperature of the two CPU cores on my system. Thank you.

Hi
Still seems rather high… is it a big drive size? Mine is 100GB. What
about the cpu core temperatures do they look ok?

–
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.0 x86 Kernel 2.6.25.18-0.2-default
up 0:19, 1 user, load average: 0.70, 0.41, 0.34
GPU GeForce 6600 TE/6200 TE - Driver Version: 177.80

Cross_AM · November 6, 2008, 8:54pm

Malcolm wrote:
>
> The range 58-60C was from hddtemp output. The sensors command shows the
> temperature of the two CPU cores on my system. Thank you.
> [/QUOTE]
> Hi
> Still seems rather high… is it a big drive size? Mine is 100GB. What
> about the cpu core temperatures do they look ok?
>

Mine is a 120 gb hdd. the cpu core temperatures were 38C each. Now I used my system for about an hour and a half and the HDD temperature rose gradually from 36C to 51C. At the end of the session the
cpu core temperatues were 42C each.