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    Default Re: 10.3 - 11 upgrade

    What will happen is that the kernel update will also update grub's boot control file, /boot/grub/menu.lst. All you need to do is create a copy of the current file before it gets over-written. Just open it with a text editor as root and save it with another name, e.g., menu.lst.backup. (Or do it from the command line with the "cp" command.) Then if anything is broken, including losing the XP chainloading stanza, you can just copy what's missing from your backup.

    What I do before upgrade is a bit more elaborate but has come in handy. I have a folder under /boot named "old". Just before upgrading I copy the kernel, initrd, the symlinks pointing to them, and menu.lst into that folder. Then if for any reason I have trouble with the new kernel, I can force grub to boot from the old until I resolve the problem with the new. Just fwiw.

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    Default Re: 10.3 - 11 upgrade

    All right, thank you. I think I'll test the whole operation on another computer before trying it on here. I think I'll also get my stepfather to burn the DVD version. Thanks everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qoph View Post
    All right, thank you. I think I'll test the whole operation on another computer before trying it on here. I think I'll also get my stepfather to burn the DVD version. Thanks everyone
    Just one other thought . . . if you simulate on another machine you'll be able to duplicate the software upgrade and that's usually where by far most of the effort goes. But keep in mind that the kernel interacts with the hardware, so it's theoretically possible for you to encounter something different between the two machines (unless they are identical, of course). What would probably be the most likely of such is if you are using either the ATI or nvidia proprietary graphics driver.

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    Honestly I have no idea what's in this machine. I'm not sure anyone knows. :-D It's a bit old at this point, though. I don't think I'll have much trouble with drivers...Oh, and proprietary? I never paid for any drivers; both Ubuntu and SuSE have installed and worked successfully right off (although Ubuntu was difficult to UNinstall *glare*).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qoph View Post
    Honestly I have no idea what's in this machine. I'm not sure anyone knows. :-D It's a bit old at this point, though. I don't think I'll have much trouble with drivers...Oh, and proprietary? I never paid for any drivers; both Ubuntu and SuSE have installed and worked successfully right off (although Ubuntu was difficult to UNinstall *glare*).
    You would not have paid for any drivers. Most users with ATI or nvidia graphics devices (or cards) download the proprietary drivers for those company's sites - that's to get 3D. But there are good open source alternatives ("radeon" for ATI, "nv" for nvidia), which would have been installed by default. To know the hardware on the machine, go to YaST - Hardware - Hardware Information; a lot of data. Or from the command line in a terminal as root use the command "lspci"; that will report the primary hardware components (the graphics will be the "vga controller"). Good luck.

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    Default Re: 10.3 - 11 upgrade

    Please take this with a grain of salt. A few years ago, I upgraded my 9.x to 10.0 with no problems. I also did a 10.0 to 10.2 upgrade with no problems either. I did a fresh install of 10.3 and I am now considering going to 11, but still unsure how I am going to do it. I also have a 9.x at work that I want up to 11 because it's getting harder to find repos for version 9s. If you end up upgrading, please let me know how you made out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metaltim View Post
    Please take this with a grain of salt. A few years ago, I upgraded my 9.x to 10.0 with no problems. I also did a 10.0 to 10.2 upgrade with no problems either. I did a fresh install of 10.3 and I am now considering going to 11, but still unsure how I am going to do it. I also have a 9.x at work that I want up to 11 because it's getting harder to find repos for version 9s. If you end up upgrading, please let me know how you made out.
    Use the DVD. Be sure to do the md5sum check on the .iso before burning, and then do a media check from the installation menu before proceeding.

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    Question Re: 10.3 - 11 upgrade

    Can someone detail this comment?
    I did all the bellow steps but I do not know how to "do a media check from the instalation menu"

    Use the DVD. Be sure to do the md5sum check on the .iso before burning, and then do a media check from the installation menu before proceeding

    thanks,
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    Default Re: 10.3 - 11 upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by dmera View Post
    Can someone detail this comment?
    I did all the bellow steps but I do not know how to "do a media check from the instalation menu"
    When you boot from the DVD, there will be several choices. One is "check media". You just select that, hit Enter, and the check will be done. The first md5sum check verifies that the file was downloaded OK and the media check verifies that the burn to DVD was actually successful (the burn can complete successfully, but the nature of the technology is such, that the content may not all be accurately transfered to the media).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingus725 View Post
    The first md5sum check verifies that the file was downloaded OK and the media check verifies that the burn to DVD was actually successful.
    I did the media check and got to 99% with an error at the end. I don't remember what it was, but I booted it anyway. On the LiveCD. It worked fine as far as I can tell. It took me several tries to install 10.3, too. Every time I would do the media check. Sometimes it said fail and sometimes it would go right through. I can't recall the error in installing that caused me to have to do it over and over.

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