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    Sounds pretty straight forward. I'll give it a shot this evening after work and post back.

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    @roguedog -

    Check the symlinks carefully in your /boot directory; make sure the pointers are still correct. There should be three, one for vmlinuz, one for initrd, and one for a boot within /boot (which circularly loops back thru /boot).

    The first partition can be formatted with either FAT32 or NTFS. XP will default to NTFS. Some argue that FAT is preferable because that makes it accessible to bootable emergency repair tools which cannot load NTFS. The main differences between the two are irrelevant on the system volume.

    Be sure you have set the first partition as active (i.e., the bootable flag) before installing XP, and that no other partitions have the flag set (cfdisk handles this nicely). IIRC XP will then automatically place the boot files, and most importantly the boot sector, in that partition.

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    @roguedog -

    I just noticed a potential issue for you. For XP to address >137GB requires 48-bit LBA, which was provided in Service Pack 1. Note that this is the outside limit, i.e., a partition which begins inside but ends beyond 137GB will not be reliably writeable and in particular not installable without SP 1. It appears that your sda8 will fall outside the limit.

    If your XP installation media already has SP1 or SP2, you are fine. If it does not, you have several options I can see: (1) Create a slipstreamed installation, which integrates a service pack into the base install. SP1 is downloadable. There are numerous howto's on the web. (2) Size down sda5 to permit a 5GB sda8 XP partition inside 137GB; after applying the service pack the partition could be enlarged or a sda9 could be added for Windows to use. (3) Switch sda5 with sda8. That is, create sda8, move the sda5 data to sda8, size down sda5 under 137GB, use it for XP.

    Good luck.

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    It was going so well, until MS entered the mix.....

    I set sda1 as the only bootable partition, ensured that my XP install DVD had SP2 and booted to the XP disk. I choose the partition for install and had windows format it to NTFS. I got through the format and copying setup files bit, then the system reboots. On reboot I get a disk error. Any thoughts?

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    OK, I just tried the install again, but I installed to sda1 instead of sda8 (mainly to reformat under windows) and it rebooted and brought me to the setup screen. I'm a bit confused, I was expecting an error because sda1 is only 1.5 gig. I'll let you know what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguedog View Post
    It was going so well, until MS entered the mix.....

    I set sda1 as the only bootable partition, ensured that my XP install DVD had SP2 and booted to the XP disk. I choose the partition for install and had windows format it to NTFS. I got through the format and copying setup files bit, then the system reboots. On reboot I get a disk error. Any thoughts?
    That could be a consequence of this:
    I get a bit wary of fat32 partitions made in Linux. I'd re-format them if you can with the windows partitioner..............
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    The installation to sda1 seems to have worked. According to windows, XP has installed itself on a 1.5 gig partition (1.56 actually) with 607 MB to spare. Either the MS compression tools have advanced by light years, or something is amiss.

    When I boot up, I'm given the choice of 2 XP installs. One boots to the incredibly efficient 1.5 gig partition and the other go into the setup screen (from the failed attempt at the sda8 install, I assume). I miss my Suse!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguedog View Post
    The installation to sda1 seems to have worked. According to windows, XP has installed itself on a 1.5 gig partition (1.56 actually) with 607 MB to spare. Either the MS compression tools have advanced by light years, or something is amiss.

    When I boot up, I'm given the choice of 2 XP installs. One boots to the incredibly efficient 1.5 gig partition and the other go into the setup screen (from the failed attempt at the sda8 install, I assume). I miss my Suse!!!
    This is my hunch now: perhaps the partition error was due to Linux making fat32 partitions that windows didn't like. That's over now because both sda1 and sda8 have been formatted by windows. So you could go back and reinstall windows on sda8 and perhaps it would work OK. Or you could stick with the windows on sda1 and clean up sda8 and make it a storage partition for the branch in the windows filesystem that begins with "Docs and Settings" (waste of space IMHO). I think chances are good that you could reinstall to sda8 now.

    Whatever --- when finished with windows do this to get Suse back, assuming root is on sda2:

    Boot off the install DVD and select the menu item "rescue system"
    Boot up to the prompt and login as root
    enter the command grub
    check that sda2 is the root partition with this command:
    find /boot/grub/menu.lst
    It should return this Grub speak for sda2: (hd0,1)
    enter: root (hd0,1)
    it returns: Filesystem type ext2, etc 0x83
    enter: setup (hd0)
    returns: checkiny ....yes, blah blah ... succeeded
    enter: quit
    enter: reboot

    end of story (I hope)
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    I appreciate your sense of humor . . .

    Yes, something is not right. I've done a heckuva lot of XP installs, can't remember any fitting in ~900MB. So I checked a vanilla XP install I have in a vm, no apps installed yet, and it's ~1.8GB in the Windows directory and 2.4GB in C with the diff mostly in the 600MB pagefile. That's 2x what you have, w/o a pagefile.

    IIRC, the way setup is supposed to work is you choose the boot volume (sda8) and, given that a primary is required for the system volume and given that such a partition is available and marked active, the OS is installed (in this case, to sda8) and the boot files are installed to the boot partition (system volume).

    When you installed did you notice that the entire disk was seen by setup? Having partially written storage is one of several possible symptoms of the 137GB problem, i.e., you can get the writes, but they are intermittent. Doesn't seem like the whole OS is there. Perhaps you could compare what you have installed to another XP instance?

    I wonder what might happen if you deleted sda1 and sda8, leaving unallocated space, and allowed setup to create the partitions? But again, you need to be sure the whole disk is being seen by setup.

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    @mingus725, what about this: repair Suse bootloader and boot Suse. Mount sda1 and sda8 writable in Suse. Delete all files on sda1 and sda8 with:
    rm -Rf /mount_point/*
    Reboot to the windows install CD -- but now the partitions sda1 and sda8 are both NTFS and both empty. Tell XP to install on sda8 and it should work just fine, using sda8 for the system files and sda1 for the boot files automatically. What do you think?
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