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  1. #1
    fabricelemaistre NNTP User

    Question yast vs zypper in viewing applications

    Hello all,

    can someone explain me why there's a difference beetween Yast and Zypper in viewing the installed applications ?

    example : yast will see an installed opera 9.52 and zypper will tell me opera is not installed

    How come ?

    Thanks

    in console here's what i have :
    Code:
    fabrice@linux-p5b5:~> su
    Mot de passe :
    linux-p5b5:/home/fabrice # zypper se opera
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:Community' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - GNOME:Community' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE4:Factory:Desktop' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE4:Factory:Desktop' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'openSUSE-11.0-Updates' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'openSUSE-11.0-Updates' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - XFCE' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - XFCE' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'kde4_extra_apps' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'kde4_extra_apps' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'kde4_community' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'kde4_community' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'Packman Repository' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'Packman Repository' [fait]
    Téléchargement des meta-données du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - Games' [fait]
    Construction du cache du dépôt 'openSUSE BuildService - Games' [fait]
    Lecture des paquets installés...
    
    S | Nom   | Résumé                         | Type
    --+-------+--------------------------------+----------
    i | opera | The Opera Web Browser          | paquet
    i | opera | opera: version upgrade to 9.52 | correctif
    linux-p5b5:/home/fabrice # zypper up opera
    Lecture des paquets installés...
    Le paquet 'opera' n'est pas installé. 
    Rien à faire.
    "[ translation : opera package is not installed / nothing to do]"

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    Default Re: yast vs zypper in viewing applications

    I noticed that you were using the su command without the "-" option. The "-" option will give you root's paths as well as permissions. That might not make a difference but you never know.
    When I was using Fedora I'd sometime get inconsistencies between the CLI yum and the GUI yumex. These could be cleared up by cleaning out the metadata files every now and then, and or rebuilding the rpm database.
    Obscurum per obscurius.
    -The obscure (explained) by the more obscure.

  3. #3
    fabricelemaistre NNTP User

    Default Re: yast vs zypper in viewing applications

    if it could only be that

    here's what i've got now with su -

    Code:
     # su -
    linux-p5b5:~ # zypper up opera
    Downloading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla' metadata [done]
    Building repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla' cache [done]
    Downloading repository 'kde4_extra_apps' metadata [done]
    Building repository 'kde4_extra_apps' cache [done]
    Downloading repository 'kde4_community' metadata [done]
    Building repository 'kde4_community' cache [done]
    Downloading repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualisation (VirtualBox)' metadata [done]
    Building repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualisation (VirtualBox)' cache [done]
    Reading installed packages...
    Package 'opera' is not installed.
    Nothing to do.

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    Default Re: yast vs zypper in viewing applications

    Yeah, that msg is a bit misleading, given that input,
    but read the fine print on the man page! [You are just assuming you
    know the syntax. But, yes, I agree that it is
    sort of a bug, since you were not the first one to
    mention this.]

    The expected syntax is:

    zypper up -t package opera
    [which should yield: No update candidate for 'opera'.]
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    Default Re: yast vs zypper in viewing applications

    Quote Originally Posted by cookdav View Post
    But, yes, I agree that it is
    sort of a bug, since you were not the first one to
    mention this.]
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=407238
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=404430
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=395480

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    sainikudu NNTP User

    Default Re: yast vs zypper in viewing applications

    The post is fabulous and it shows the hard work that has been done behind creating the post. I am really grateful and thank you so much.



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