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    Default Geting hold of application software

    Hi, I have Suse 11.0 installed on it own hard drive. I have mobile racks so though I have Windows XP 32, Windows XP 64, Windows Vista Ultimate 64 and Suse 11.0 as each has it own hard drive, they are totally un-connected. The problem I have, is that I have a wireless 3.6 Mbps broadband connection which does not support Linux and only supports the Windows XP 32 and Windows Vista Ultimate 64. I am wondering is there any way to download application software from the net via a windows operating system for the Suse as if I could do that I should be able to put it on to a USB flashstick and get it to the Suse that way, well I hope I could.

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    Adrian Wainer

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    Default Re: Geting hold of application software

    you can download the software,but, you will run into dependency "hell" eventually. best thing to do would be to get the wireless sorted.is it an unsupported device or an isp who says they don't support linux ? if the latter, you only need a router that can connect. providing you have ethernet,linux will quite happily connect to the web. then you could sort out wireless. to see if it is supported, post the output of /sbin/lspci -v from a console. or lsusb if a usb device

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    It is a Huewei E-169G

    3 mobile broadband: Huawei E169G HDSPA, E220 USB modems review - first impressions - A Consuming Experience

    and there is no software or drivers for Linux onboard it. It connects to the ISP mast via wireless transmission HSDPA 3.6 Mbps

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    AAHH ! that type of device. I believe you are correct,in that there are no linux drivers. IIRC, it uses the same technology as a mobile/celular phone. Just on the off chance, could you post the output of lsusb with the device inserted ?
    Also, this chappie got it to work in linux,albeit it took a bit of fiddling Linux and the Huawei E169G may be worth a try

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    Default Re: Geting hold of application software

    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Wainer
    It is a Huewei E-169G

    '3 mobile broadband: Huawei E169G HDSPA, E220 USB modems review - first
    impressions - A Consuming Experience' (http://tinyurl.com/4fgqpq)

    and there is no software or drivers for Linux onboard it. It connects
    to the ISP mast via wireless transmission HSDPA 3.6 Mbps

    Best and Warm Regards
    Adrian Wainer
    Hi
    It doesn't need drivers. As long as you can get the dial-in
    information (APN, AT setup etc) from your windows setup. It's just a
    modem and should work with linux.

    For example;
    http://tinyurl.com/5k3ltw
    or
    http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...linux.-619572/

    I have also found using netsh (windows application) and setting the PPP
    logging can help to glean more information.

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    Hi sorry I was not more descriptive in my first post, the reason being that if it was just a wireless link between the computer and a router, I could no doubt get hold of a wireless link which would support Linux or use some other method of connecting the computer to the router, and failed to realize that because I know this, the person answering the query would not know I was aware of such issues, so my fault for any confusion caused.
    It is interesting to know that there is a possability to adapt this device to support Linux but for me I think I will leave it as it is, as I have spent about the best part I would say of thirty hours on the telephone to Three's technical support in Bombay in order to try and get the thing to work effectively with my Windows operating systems, [ except Windows XP 64 which it does not support ]. So I am happy enough that it is at least working effectively with Windows after a huge effort.
    To be more specific there is no great issue to get to work with Windows it is pretty much plug and play the issue is trying to get decent download from it, and that's what had me on the phone to Bombay. Bye the way I live in Ireland, and no doubt there are differences e.g. on the backhaul as say compared to the UK, so UK users of this device may be different experiences.

    Best and Warm Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian Wainer
    Hi sorry I was not more descriptive in my first post, the reason being
    that if it was just a wireless link between the computer and a router, I
    could no doubt get hold of a wireless link which would support Linux or
    use some other method of connecting the computer to the router, and
    failed to realize that because I know this, the person answering the
    query would not know I was aware of such issues, so my fault for any
    confusion caused.
    It is interesting to know that there is a possability to adapt this
    device to support Linux but for me I think I will leave it as it is, as
    I have spent about the best part I would say of thirty hours on the
    telephone to Three's technical support in Bombay in order to try and get
    the thing to work effectively with my Windows operating systems, [
    except Windows XP 64 which it does not support ]. So I am happy enough
    that it is at least working effectively with Windows after a huge
    effort.
    To be more specific there is no great issue to get to work with Windows
    it is pretty much plug and play the issue is trying to get decent
    download from it, and that's what had me on the phone to Bombay. Bye the
    way I live in Ireland, and no doubt there are differences e.g. on the
    backhaul as say compared to the UK, so UK users of this device may be
    different experiences.

    Best and Warm Regards
    Adrian Wainer
    Hi
    I would suggest you look at running a virtual machine in windows
    (virtualbox, vmware server) and install linux. You can then test an
    application and download the files and dependiences, which you could
    then copy to the usb drive for use in your main linux setup. Nothing
    worse the booting into linux and finding you need to reboot and go and
    get an 18Kb file that is a dependancy....

    The other option is to rsync the whole repo for your architecture so
    they are available on a usb external drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian_Wainer View Post
    Hi sorry I was not more descriptive in my first post, the reason being that if it was just a wireless link between the computer and a router, I could no doubt get hold of a wireless link which would support Linux or use some other method of connecting the computer to the router, and failed to realize that because I know this, the person answering the query would not know I was aware of such issues, so my fault for any confusion caused.
    It is interesting to know that there is a possability to adapt this device to support Linux but for me I think I will leave it as it is, as I have spent about the best part I would say of thirty hours on the telephone to Three's technical support in Bombay in order to try and get the thing to work effectively with my Windows operating systems, [ except Windows XP 64 which it does not support ]. So I am happy enough that it is at least working effectively with Windows after a huge effort.
    To be more specific there is no great issue to get to work with Windows it is pretty much plug and play the issue is trying to get decent download from it, and that's what had me on the phone to Bombay. Bye the way I live in Ireland, and no doubt there are differences e.g. on the backhaul as say compared to the UK, so UK users of this device may be different experiences.

    Best and Warm Regards
    Adrian Wainer
    Thanx Malcolm and Delta for the links, it would have taken me literally days of Googleing to find them, but since I never have had a Linux instilation before 3 days ago, adapting it to take the Huewei would likely damage what I have left of a brain, but when I get more confident with the Linux I may do it. As the HSDPA technology gets more popular it is likely that 3rd parties will start offering cards that will fit in the PCI and PCI express slots at the back of PC and it is likely such cards will support Linux as standard. There is one card available at the moment I don't know if it supports Linux but it is way too expensive and usually the prices of these things drop like a stone once they go mass-market.

    Best Regards Adrian

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltaflyer44 View Post
    you can download the software,but, you will run into dependency "hell" eventually.
    Andy
    I know it would be a pathetic bodge, but I would sooner leave the modem itself alone as if I break that, bang goes my internet so I would like to explore the possability of downloading via windows. You are exactly right to mention "dependacy hell" in that if somebody went ahead via the the Windows route and then ran in to that problem and had not been made aware of it beforehand they might not be a happy camper. But in my case, as this is my first Linux, I pretty much reckoned it would get screwed-up anyway after not long and I would do a complete nothing carried over fresh install, so I don't really care if the applications software and even the operating system on the Linux drive get in to some problem because of the Windows download bodge. Also because all the drives and their operating systems are seperate, the Linux can get messed without it upsetting any thing else.

    Best and Warm Regards
    Adrian Wainer

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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmlewis View Post
    Hi
    I would suggest you look at running a virtual machine in windows
    (virtualbox, vmware server) and install linux. You can then test an
    application and download the files and dependiences, which you could
    then copy to the usb drive for use in your main linux setup. Nothing
    worse the booting into linux and finding you need to reboot and go and
    get an 18Kb file that is a dependancy....

    The other option is to rsync the whole repo for your architecture so
    they are available on a usb external drive.
    Hi Malcolm, I am not well up on Virtual machines, I do have a Windows XP 32 runing as a guest on my Windows Vista 64 with the Windows Vista 64 acting the host and the specific virtual machine I am using is the one supplied by Microsoft, [ okay it is free from Microsoft, but the laugh is that Whilst Vista 64 using microsoft's own virtualization software can act as host to a Windows XP 32 guest, it can't support Windows XP 64 as a guest, now hows that for dumb ],. Yep, but if I have understood you correctly, the only advantage of runing a Linux as a guest in a Windows host instillation under virtualization software would be I could test the application software there first there before installing it on the standalone Linux drive?

    Best Regards adrian

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