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    Smile Suse 10.2 using tar.tz as backup

    Hi

    I have just noticed that a change has happened somewhere - I used to be able to backup .kde using tar.tz then take the file to my lap top, expand it and replace .kde thus getting my laptop up to date. [I use 10.2 on that as well]

    Now .kde will tar.tz on this machine and expand with no problems but will not be copied from this machine [either dvd or usb stick]? I think it is about permissions but the file copies 99% then hangs. I have looked at my monthly backups and the tar file worked till around the beggining of this year - I suspect a security update has upset my plans? When expanding on the laptop a number of errors now occur making the .kde file useless

    Any ideas?


    Thanks

    Marchant

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    Default Re: Suse 10.2 using tar.tz as backup

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:26:03 GMT
    signetone <signetone@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I have just noticed that a change has happened somewhere - I used to be
    > able to backup .kde using tar.tz then take the file to my lap top,
    > expand it and replace .kde thus getting my laptop up to date. [I use
    > 10.2 on that as well]
    >
    > Now .kde will tar.tz on this machine and expand with no problems but
    > will not be copied from this machine [either dvd or usb stick]? I think
    > it is about permissions but the file copies 99% then hangs. I have
    > looked at my monthly backups and the tar file worked till around the
    > beggining of this year - I suspect a security update has upset my
    > plans? When expanding on the laptop a number of errors now occur making
    > the .kde file useless
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Marchant
    >
    >


    Why on earth are you backing up your entire .kde subdir to use on another
    machine? That would really only work if both machines were identical
    clones of each other. (and then.. maybe)

    KDE creates many symlinks to machine dependent locations, many based on the
    hostname of the machine. Are the two machines named identically?

    Can you not allow the laptop to update 'normally'? Does this laptop have
    internet connection?

    Loni

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    Thumbs up Re: Suse 10.2 using tar.tz as backup

    Quote Originally Posted by lornix View Post
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:26:03 GMT
    signetone <signetone@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I have just noticed that a change has happened somewhere - I used to be
    > able to backup .kde using tar.tz then take the file to my lap top,
    > expand it and replace .kde thus getting my laptop up to date. [I use
    > 10.2 on that as well]
    >
    > Now .kde will tar.tz on this machine and expand with no problems but
    > will not be copied from this machine [either dvd or usb stick]? I think
    > it is about permissions but the file copies 99&#37; then hangs. I have
    > looked at my monthly backups and the tar file worked till around the
    > beggining of this year - I suspect a security update has upset my
    > plans? When expanding on the laptop a number of errors now occur making
    > the .kde file useless
    >
    > Any ideas?
    >
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Marchant
    >
    >


    Why on earth are you backing up your entire .kde subdir to use on another
    machine? That would really only work if both machines were identical
    clones of each other. (and then.. maybe)

    KDE creates many symlinks to machine dependent locations, many based on the
    hostname of the machine. Are the two machines named identically?

    Can you not allow the laptop to update 'normally'? Does this laptop have
    internet connection?

    Loni

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    lornix@lornix.com
    Hi

    No you are wrong. The .kde will take across up to date versions of Kontact and all the emails and contacts and calender. The lap top has access to internet but this is an issue of data and yes it has worked for 4 years and the two machines are not the same but use 10.2. and I do use the same user name obviously.

    I have found a workaround - which allows both machines to be at the same point data wise. Hidden folder .kde contains two files share and autostart and if these are copied to a new folder, then compressed, the resultant .tar.gz [213Mbit] can be loaded on a memory stick and then uncompressed on the laptop. The two files can then be replaced in the hidden file .kde and all is up to date. We are not talking about software updates its data and passwords etc used within kde.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Suse 10.2 using tar.tz as backup

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:46:03 GMT
    signetone <signetone@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    > lornix;1858284 Wrote:
    > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:26:03 GMT
    > > signetone <signetone@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
    > >
    > > >
    > > > Hi
    > > >
    > > > I have just noticed that a change has happened somewhere - I used to

    > > be
    > > > able to backup .kde using tar.tz then take the file to my lap top,
    > > > expand it and replace .kde thus getting my laptop up to date. [I use
    > > > 10.2 on that as well]
    > > >
    > > > Now .kde will tar.tz on this machine and expand with no problems but
    > > > will not be copied from this machine [either dvd or usb stick]? I

    > > think
    > > > it is about permissions but the file copies 99&#37; then hangs. I

    > > have
    > > > looked at my monthly backups and the tar file worked till around the
    > > > beggining of this year - I suspect a security update has upset my
    > > > plans? When expanding on the laptop a number of errors now occur

    > > making
    > > > the .kde file useless
    > > >
    > > > Any ideas?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > > >
    > > > Marchant
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > Why on earth are you backing up your entire .kde subdir to use on
    > > another
    > > machine? That would really only work if both machines were identical
    > > clones of each other. (and then.. maybe)
    > >
    > > KDE creates many symlinks to machine dependent locations, many based on
    > > the
    > > hostname of the machine. Are the two machines named identically?
    > >
    > > Can you not allow the laptop to update 'normally'? Does this laptop
    > > have
    > > internet connection?
    > >
    > > Loni
    > >
    > > --
    > > L R Nix
    > > lornix@lornix.com

    >
    > Hi
    >
    > No you are wrong. The .kde will take across up to date versions of
    > Kontact and all the emails and contacts and calender. The lap top has
    > access to internet but this is an issue of data and yes it has worked
    > for 4 years and the two machines are not the same but use 10.2. and I
    > do use the same user name obviously.
    >
    > I have found a workaround - which allows both machines to be at the
    > same point data wise. Hidden folder .kde contains two files share and
    > autostart and if these are copied to a new folder, then compressed, the
    > resultant .tar.gz [213Mbit] can be loaded on a memory stick and then
    > uncompressed on the laptop. The two files can then be replaced in the
    > hidden file .kde and all is up to date. We are not talking about
    > software updates its data and passwords etc used within kde.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >


    Kontact information can be exported and imported safely, there's no need to
    copy the entire .kde tree around. It's more work, not as easy as just
    tarring the tree, although a script could handle it quite simply.

    Still not something I'd *ever* recommend doing. Sharing config trees
    between systems isn't trivial. But it seems to be working for you. That's
    good. I've used these linux contraptions for a few months... and based on
    what I know I wouldn't do that.

    But of course, this is my opinion. Not that I really know anything or not.

    It's working for you. Good. Enjoy.

    Loni.

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