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    Default Second X server output is missing windows frames

    I sometimes use my notebook in conjunction with a TV. For the TV output I found out that with OpenSuse 10.3 the best way to watch vids on TV was to use a second X server. The second desktop showed up with correct behaviour (only missing the "minimize all windows" button), until I decided to update to the current version 11.

    Since then the windows have no frames and no title bars, making it impossible to move or resize them. As I still have not seen any update resolving this matter yet, I'm wondering: Am I really the only one who happens to see this bug?

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    Default Re: Second X server output is missing windows frames

    Hi jluber. Can't promise to solve this, but you'll get a better chance of help, if you can post some more details about your graphics chipset, window manager (Compiz enabled, KWin etc), and desktop environment (Gnome, KDE3, KDE4 etc). Might pay to post your xorg.conf as well.

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    Default Re: Second X server output is missing windows frames

    Quote Originally Posted by deano_ferrari View Post
    Hi jluber. Can't promise to solve this, but you'll get a better chance of help, if you can post some more details about your graphics chipset, window manager (Compiz enabled, KWin etc), and desktop environment (Gnome, KDE3, KDE4 etc). Might pay to post your xorg.conf as well.
    I have the GeForceGo 7600 along with the official NVidia driver. I don't know how to read out the graphics chipset. I use standard KDE 3 with no modifications from my side, so I don't know which window manager I actually use (from the name it could be KWin, if that one is used by KDE 3). I have the most uptodate software from my chosen repositories. I have ignored English writing lessons with starting every sentence with 'I'.

    Here's the xorg.conf:

    Code:
    # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
    # nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder63)  Thu Jun  5 00:11:12 PDT 2008
    
    # /.../
    # SaX generated X11 config file
    # Created on: 2008-06-13T13:31:13+0200.
    #
    # Version: 8.1
    # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2005
    # Contact: SaX-User list <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users>
    #
    # Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
    # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
    #
    
    Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Layout[all]"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
        InputDevice    "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Mouse[3]" "SendCoreEvents"
        Option         "Clone" "off"
        Option         "Xinerama" "off"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Files"
        InputDevices      "/dev/gpmdata"
        InputDevices      "/dev/input/mice"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/local"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/URW"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/CID"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
        FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/xtest"
        FontPath        "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Module"
        Load           "dbe"
        Load           "type1"
        Load           "freetype"
        Load           "extmod"
        Load           "glx"
    EndSection
    
    Section "ServerFlags"
        Option         "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
        Option         "ZapWarning" "on"
        Option         "Xinerama" "0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier     "Keyboard[0]"
        Driver         "kbd"
        Option         "Protocol" "Standard"
        Option         "XkbLayout" "de"
        Option         "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"
        Option         "XkbRules" "xfree86"
        Option         "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier     "Mouse[1]"
        Driver         "synaptics"
        Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
        Option         "Name" "Touchpad"
        Option         "SHMConfig" "on"
        Option         "Vendor" "Synaptics"
        Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    EndSection
    
    Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier     "Mouse[3]"
        Driver         "mouse"
        Option         "Buttons" "12"
        Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option         "Name" "Logitech MX1000 mouse"
        Option         "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
        Option         "Vendor" "Sysp"
        Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Modes"
        Identifier         "Modes[0]"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
        Identifier     "Monitor[0]"
        VendorName     "AUO"
        ModelName      "AUO LCD MONITOR"
        UseModes       "Modes[0]"
        DisplaySize     331    207
        HorizSync       30.0 - 62.0
        VertRefresh     43.0 - 60.0
        Option         "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
        Option         "DPMS"
        Option         "PreferredMode" "1280x800"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
        Identifier     "Monitor0"
        VendorName     "Unknown"
        ModelName      "AUO"
        HorizSync       30.0 - 75.0
        VertRefresh     60.0
    EndSection
    
    Section "Monitor"
        Identifier     "Monitor1"
        VendorName     "Unknown"
        ModelName      "TV-0"
        HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
        VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
        Identifier     "Device[0]"
        Driver         "nvidia"
        VendorName     "NVIDIA"
        BoardName      "GeForce Go 7600"
        BusID          "1:0:0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
        Identifier     "Videocard0"
        Driver         "nvidia"
        VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
        BoardName      "GeForce Go 7600"
        BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
        Screen          0
    EndSection
    
    Section "Device"
        Identifier     "Videocard1"
        Driver         "nvidia"
        VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
        BoardName      "GeForce Go 7600"
        BusID          "PCI:1:0:0"
        Screen          1
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
        Identifier     "Screen[0]"
        Device         "Device[0]"
        Monitor        "Monitor[0]"
        DefaultDepth    24
        SubSection     "Display"
            Depth       15
            Modes      "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection     "Display"
            Depth       16
            Modes      "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection     "Display"
            Depth       24
            Modes      "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection     "Display"
            Depth       8
            Modes      "1280x800" "1280x768" "1280x720" "1024x768" "1280x600" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
        Identifier     "Screen0"
        Device         "Videocard0"
        Monitor        "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth    24
        Option         "TwinView" "0"
        Option         "metamodes" "DFP: 1280x800 +0+0; DFP: 1024x768 +0+0; DFP: 800x600 +0+0; DFP: 640x480 +0+0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Screen"
        Identifier     "Screen1"
        Device         "Videocard1"
        Monitor        "Monitor1"
        DefaultDepth    24
        Option         "TwinView" "0"
        Option         "metamodes" "TV: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
    EndSection
    
    Section "Extensions"
        Option         "Composite" "on"
    EndSection

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    Default Re: Second X server output is missing windows frames

    Did you set this configuration up with nvidia-settings tool? Or did you copy it from working openSUSE 10.3 distro?

    I would have thought you would require 2 Deivce, Screen, and Monitor Sections, yet you have 3 of each. Have a look at this how to:

    HOWTO Dual Monitors - Gentoo Linux Wiki

    The xorg.conf info is still relevant to openSUSE.

    Non-Twinview multiple X screens guide:

    Appendix*P.*Configuring Multiple X Screens on One Card

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    I did generate the xorg.conf via nvidia-settings on openSUSE 11 RC1. The reason why there are three output settings is probably that there are three ways to output graphic. One internally and two externally. The second external output is used for projectors and similar devices, I just don't have one to use currently.

    So I'm a bit confused why you point out those links. I didn't edit xorg.conf myself after all. Also I don't believe that the aforementioned bug is caused by a wrong entry in xorg.conf, although I'd be hard-pressed to point out where in the software stack the error resides. If I knew that I could report it at the correct place.

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    Default Re: Second X server output is missing windows frames

    So I'm a bit confused why you point out those links.
    Just so you can have something to check against. Better than nothing. If you want to nail the cause down a bit, I suggest you try other desktop environments (like Gnome for example) to see whether this behaviour is KDE3 specific. It is almost certainly a window manager problem, so you could try posting this problem at KDE forums.

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