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Thread: Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

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    Exclamation Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

    Hi all,

    This is my first post on the forum, bla bla bla, usual introduction

    In a not-so-far past, I've installed Ubuntu with Wubi and got everything working perfectly at first install. This was good at the time but now I want to get more serious and install openSUSE 11 on a dedicated hard drive (dual boot with existing Windows XP Pro).

    I've read the topic about pre-installation instructions and everything's fine.

    I use the DVD version for installation.

    Impatient readers start here

    I have 3 physical hard drives. Layout shows like this :

    Drive C:


    • Western Digital 80 GB
    • IDE
    • NTFS
    • Contains personal data. For some reason, boot.ini, NTLDR, NTDETECT and other boot files used by Windows XP are located on the root of that drive but Windows XP itself is elsewhere ( see Drive E: )

    Drive D:


    • Maxtor 40 GB
    • IDE
    • Linux Swap + Ext3
    • That is where I want to install openSUSE 11. I wish to use all space available on it.

    Drive E:


    • 2 * Seagate 80 GB on a nForce4-powered RAID 0 array
    • SATA
    • NTFS
    • Contains Windows XP, software, games, etc..

    Pretty simple setup, eh ?

    However, I have trouble getting openSUSE 11 to install properly. It fails at installing the boot manager using default settings. Installer asks me if I want to modify boot manager configuration but I did not find the right settings combination to make it work.

    On to my questions...


    • Where do I install the boot manager (presumably GRUB) ? C: ? Drive where openSUSE 11 will be installed ?
    • What if I install GRUB on C: ? Is there a risk I loose data on that drive ?
    • Am I better skipping boot manager installation and switch to another product like GAG, OSL2000 or Acronis OS Selector ?

    On a lesser note, I'm wondering...


    • For getting KDE, Gnome, Xfce or any other window manager to work a.s.a.p. after the file copy process (let's say after first reboot), do I HAVE to install display drivers at install time ? I own an nVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT.
    • Is KDE 4 really a pain in the ass to make it work properly ? Should I just switch to something else, like Gnome or KDE 3.5.x ?

    Hope my explanations are precise enough. Just in case you haven't noticed, my english's far from perfect .

    Thanks !
    Last edited by javs1979; 22-Jul-2008 at 08:07. Reason: Added precisions...

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    Default Re: Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

    The only thing i can help you with is that vido stuff.
    I suggest you copy to a USB drive you nvidia or ATI video drivers then once you boot suse for the 1st time install them!

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    Thumbs up Re: Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

    Well, uh, I expected not to do this for display drivers.

    I thought it was possible to get drivers at package selection install step (before the file copy process)... I'll take note of your method.

    Worst case scenario, I'll rely on this page.

    Thanks.

    'nyone else ?

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    Default Re: Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

    That is where i got my drivers from
    all I did was download the file save it into a USB then just double clikced on linux and it installed itself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhound View Post
    That is where i got my drivers from
    all I did was download the file save it into a USB then just double clikced on linux and it installed itself!

    Yeah, well, I figured that out, thanks

    Problem is I can't get openSUSE to start properly because of boot manager madness

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    Red face openSUSE still not working, boot manager madness

    Alright, here's how it goes...

    I tried the following boot managers :

    • GAG (using Ultimate Boot CD)
    • OSL2000
    • Acronis OS Selector
    • Super GRUB Disk

    OSL2000 managed to identify each and every partition available on my system but I've never been able to boot on the Linux partition. GRUB displays an "Error 22 No such partition".

    Strangely, Windows boots up but only if I select the MBR on the RAID 0 array. Selecting the hard drive directly displays an arror about NTLDR missing.

    Tried 5 times installing openSUSE but never managed to get past the first reboot.

    I really want to install openSUSE but don't plan on purchasing SLED (why would I do that ? openSUSE is free).

    I will use GNU GRUB or Super GRUB Disk if I have to. I'm also willing to submit screen captures.

    Anyone, please ?

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    Default Re: Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

    did you tried to install GRUB on the MBR? it will ((in a normal scenario) add chain to boot all available systems on your computer.
    For the driver thing: you can have your desktop environment (kde, xfce, gnome, etc.) just working after the installation process, because those work on top of xorg which is supplied with defaults drivers that can handle most (if not all) display hardware; though there will be no 3D acceleration, which is provided by either opensource nvidia driver (not complete in terms of features), or the binary proprietary driver provided by nvidia (the link you post).
    And one last thing, kde4.0 present on the dvd, is however kde team say no, a beta software, and is not intended to be use on production. just step on it if you have an adventurous mind. Instead, prefer kde3.5 or other more stable desktop environment
    Hope this will help.

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    Default Re: openSUSE still not working, boot manager madness

    Quote Originally Posted by javs1979 View Post
    Alright, here's how it goes...

    I tried the following boot managers :

    • GAG (using Ultimate Boot CD)
    • OSL2000
    • Acronis OS Selector
    • Super GRUB Disk

    OSL2000 managed to identify each and every partition available on my system but I've never been able to boot on the Linux partition. GRUB displays an "Error 22 No such partition".

    Strangely, Windows boots up but only if I select the MBR on the RAID 0 array. Selecting the hard drive directly displays an arror about NTLDR missing.

    Tried 5 times installing openSUSE but never managed to get past the first reboot.

    I really want to install openSUSE but don't plan on purchasing SLED (why would I do that ? openSUSE is free).

    I will use GNU GRUB or Super GRUB Disk if I have to. I'm also willing to submit screen captures.

    Anyone, please ?
    It looks like the grub problem is coming from your xp setup on RAID 0 array.
    I am not using it so can't help you there. Maybe someone using that kind of setup will chime-in. Do a search in the archive under suseforums.net, If memory serves there are plenty of threads pertaining to this issue.

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    Default Re: Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

    hi. About the boot sequence: i always put grub in the root/boot partition (depends on your partitioning scheme) then i let gag do the rest. This way changing the boot behaviour doesn' need a running system. About video drivers: you will have to install proprietary drivers to have the extra features of you hardware working.

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    Thumbs up Re: Trying to get openSUSE to work, failing miserably...

    Hi hotus,

    Thanks for your answer.

    In fact, I just don't know where GRUB installs.

    At the end of the installation process, openSUSE installs the boot manager at a default location (provided I did not change it before the file copy process). This scenario does not seem to work.

    Since I'm a wuss , I'm afraid to install GRUB on the MBR. Will it make my Windows partition unbootable ? Yeah, my personal data is elsewhere but I don't want to reinstall Windows unless in a worst case scenario.

    Except that boot manager thingy, everything installs fine.

    What you think ?

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