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    Default OS 11.0 x.org crashes

    I had installed opensuse 11.0 KDE, now I am test with the livecd, because I had to reinstall OS 10.3 due to the fact that OS 11.0 crashes from time to time and I don not know why. Sometimes directly after the log in, some minutes after 5 or ten minutes or an hour later. Then I have to reboot, thus working with OS 11.0 is not like having fun. Under OS 10.3 everything runs fine. My agp graphics card is an old ati radeon qd 7000 with 3d accelleration.

    I do not know how to check my system, if everything runs fine, or what else I have to switch. I know the installed graphic driver is radeon, but that is all I know. Has someone made the same experience or know some advise, what is to do in the first step.

    It would be good thing to benefit from the advantages of OS 11.0.

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    Default Re: OS 11.0 x.org crashes

    ccrieo wrote:
    > I had installed opensuse 11.0 KDE, now I am test with the livecd,
    > because I had to reinstall OS 10.3 due to the fact that OS 11.0 crashes
    > from time to time and I don not know why. Sometimes directly after the
    > log in, some minutes after 5 or ten minutes or an hour later. Then I
    > have to reboot, thus working with OS 11.0 is not like having fun. Under
    > OS 10.3 everything runs fine. My agp graphics card is an old ati radeon
    > qd 7000 with 3d accelleration.
    >
    > I do not know how to check my system, if everything runs fine, or what
    > else I have to switch. I know the installed graphic driver is radeon,
    > but that is all I know. Has someone made the same experience or know
    > some advise, what is to do in the first step.
    >
    > It would be good thing to benefit from the advantages of OS 11.0.


    Were you running KDE4 on 11.0? If so, load KDE3 instead. It is much more stable.
    You can only make that choice from the DVD. From the CD, install 4.0, then add
    KDE3 from the "software Management" button in YaST. You then select KDE3 at login.

    The other instability in 11.0 lies with the Reiserfs file system, which has at
    least 2 bugs, that I know of, in the 2.6.25 kernel.

    I run the 64-bit version of 11.0 with ext3 file systems and KDE3 with no crashes.

    Larry

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    Default Re: OS 11.0 x.org crashes

    That is what I took into account. I had installed OS 11.0 with both desktops KDE 4 and 3. Independently which one I run, OS 11.0 crashes.

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    Default Re: OS 11.0 x.org crashes

    > what is to do in the first step.

    use the web forum's search page <http://forums.opensuse.org/search.php>
    to find all threads with any of these terms in the title

    freeze OR "lock-up" OR crash

    (that is, after putting the above in the "keyword(s)" blank, then SPIN
    the just below selector to "Search Titles Only")

    if you do that, and do a LOT of reading i think you will find that some
    folks seem to avoid the 11.0 freezes by:

    - making sure to check the md5sum before burning the CD/DVD..

    - burn the CD/DVD at 4x, or the slowest you can..

    - on first boot of the CD/DVD select the option to "check media" BEFORE
    you begin the install..

    - DO NOT INSTALL KDE4, at this point it is EXPERIMENTAL software and it
    gives more problems than thrills...after you have a nice and stable
    system, THEN consider installing it as an OPTIONAL (in addition to KDE3)
    windows manager....and, be prepared for unstable and not YET complete
    system..

    - removing or disabling beagle/kerry (or don't install them to begin with)

    - replacing reiserfs (though it is said the newest kernel is patched)

    - NOT running firefox (using konqueror/opera instead)

    - one person (at least) started avoiding running thunderbird

    - Compiz is also a source of lock-ups. buggy openGL calls mixed with
    less than perfect graphics drivers is a recipe for a deep freeze.

    - Window candy that generates a preview of a web browser rendered mostly
    by java or javascript like a remote desktop or yahoo mail also seems to
    be something of a problem.

    - suspecting and fixing hardware problems like memory, excess heat
    and/or insufficient power supply capacity..

    - NEVER ever log into a windowed session as root...ALWAYS log in as a
    regular user and then use a terminal and sudo, and/or always use YaST
    where possible....let me repeat that:
    NEVER EVER LOG INTO A WINDOWED SESSION AS ROOT!

    - ALERT TO NEW TO LINUX FOLKS: thanks for trying open software, but when
    you ask a question in the forum you need to remember that the gal/guy
    answering you MIGHT have one full week's experience with Linux (or many
    years--it is really hard to tell)....and, s/he MIGHT not know the _best_
    way to fix your problem...and, MIGHT give bad advice accidentally...this
    is a COMMUNITY of _users_, it is not a place to get PAID FOR ADVICE you
    can count on to be absolutely correct....even "senior members" might
    make a mistake because the only thing it takes to become one of those is
    lots of messages--NOT proven technical expertise or experience...

    and, some say that their 11.0 runs smoothly, right out of the box so
    keep trying and smiling..

    finally: HAVE FUN and keep at it, when you get it just right you will be
    AMAZED at how really good it can be!!


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