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    Hi,

    I am running 10.3 on my Dell Inspiron 1420, but I can't get my microphone and internal speakers to work.I am having a perfect sound in external speakers(though a bit less volume, which is not at all a problem).
    I tried the audio troubleshoot as given in opensuse, but all in vain.
    can anybody suggest me any solution?

    I am hereby giving some info:::


    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> cat sound

    options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0
    # u1Nb.wUq5O6bR3r1:82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller


    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> rpm -qa |grep alsa
    alsa-firmware-1.0.16.92.git20080617-2.1
    alsa-tools-1.0.16.91.git20080610-1.4
    alsa-utils-1.0.16.92.git20080617-1.4
    alsa-1.0.16.92.git20080617-4.1
    alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.14-23
    alsa-devel-1.0.16.92.git20080617-4.1
    alsa-oss-1.0.14-23
    alsa-plugins-1.0.14-41



    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> rpm -qa | grep pulse
    xmms-pulse-0.9.4-0.pm.1
    xmms-pulse-debuginfo-0.9.4-0.pm.1
    libpulse0-0.9.10-0.pm.1


    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> rpm -q libasound2
    libasound2-1.0.16.92.git20080617-4.1



    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> uname -a
    Linux SAIKAT 2.6.22.5-31-default #1 SMP 2007/09/21 22:29:00 UTC x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux



    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> head -n 1 /proc/asound/card0/codec*
    ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 <==
    Codec: SigmaTel STAC9228

    ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#1 <==
    Codec: Conexant ID 2c06

    -----------------------------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------------

    Now, I changed the module and now my /etc/modprobe.d/sound is::

    options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0
    # u1Nb.wUq5O6bR3r1:82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
    alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel model=dell-m44

    after this i did rcalsasound restart, but it gave :

    SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d # rcalsasound restart
    Shutting down sound driver done
    Starting sound driver: hda-intel model=dell-m44FATAL: Module model=dell_m44 not found.
    failed

    i saved the alsa info in general pastebin - banskt - post number 1075340

    and now the external speakers also stops working
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I again changed the /etc/modprobe.d/sound and made it as it was before....
    now i again ran the alsa script which is stored at
    general pastebin - banskt - post number 1075352


    Can anybody please help me?
    I know it would be a lot of pain to go through all these, but I wanted to give as much info as I can... so I posted such a long query....

    Please help me...

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    Default Re: No sound from internal speaker in Dell Inspiron 1420

    sorry, there was one mistake on my part in the above post...

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post

    and now the external speakers also stops working
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    i gave wrong command for speaker-test, rechecking it, (which i do always) i found that external speakers were still working but the internal speakers were as dumb as ever, and the microphone is still not working........

    i would be glad to hear from you... thanks in advance..

    For the last few days, i have been playing with almost everything in openSUSE... its so much a problem with 64-bit, no realmedia, no flashplayer,gnash or swfdec.. nothing...

    waiting to hear from you regarding the sound problem, which is really messing up things.. u can't always have an external speaker to support your openSUSE.....again, thanks in advance
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    Default Re: No sound from internal speaker in Dell Inspiron 1420

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    I am running 10.3 on my Dell Inspiron 1420, but I can't get my microphone and internal speakers to work.I am having a perfect sound in external speakers(though a bit less volume, which is not at all a problem).
    I'm willing to give this a try if you have the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> cat sound
    This is the wrong command. The command to obtain /etc/modprobe.d/sound file information is:
    cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> rpm -qa |grep alsa
    alsa-firmware-1.0.16.92.git20080617-2.1
    alsa-tools-1.0.16.91.git20080610-1.4
    alsa-utils-1.0.16.92.git20080617-1.4
    alsa-1.0.16.92.git20080617-4.1
    alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.14-23
    alsa-devel-1.0.16.92.git20080617-4.1
    alsa-oss-1.0.14-23
    alsa-plugins-1.0.14-41
    Where is alsa-driver-kmp? It looks like you were unable to follow successfully the guidance in the audio troubleshooting guide. I'll provide a suggestion later.

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    Code:
    banskt@SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d> head -n 1 /proc/asound/card0/codec*
    ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 <==
    Codec: SigmaTel STAC9228
    Thanks! a STAC9228. Thats necessary to know.
    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    ==> /proc/asound/card0/codec#1 <==
    Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
    This is interesting. ... makes me wonder if an ID 2c06 is the same as a STAC9228.

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    Now, I changed the module and now my /etc/modprobe.d/sound is::

    Code:
    options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0
    # u1Nb.wUq5O6bR3r1:82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
    alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel model=dell-m44
    This model is the wrong model for a STAC9228. The "dell-m44" is the model for a STAC9205/9254, which is not the same. In fact my research for the Dell Inspiron 1420 suggests the correct model is "3stack".

    In case you are curious, from the ALSA-Configuration.txt file, the possible options for a STAC9228 are:
    Code:
    		STAC9227/9228/9229/927x
    		  ref		Reference board
    		  3stack	D965 3stack
    		  5stack	D965 5stack + SPDIF
    		  dell-3stack	Dell Dimension E520
    ... and as noted, I have read of Dell Inspiron 1420 users successfully using "3stack".


    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    after this i did rcalsasound restart, but it gave :

    Code:
    SAIKAT:/etc/modprobe.d # rcalsasound restart
    Shutting down sound driver                                           done
    Starting sound driver:  hda-intel model=dell-m44FATAL: Module model=dell_m44 not found.
                        failed
    As expected.

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    thanks!

    Thanks for all the information, ... it made it possible for me to provide you a recommendation right away, as opposed to a lengthy question/answer session. OK, looking at the script output, I see:
    Code:
    # Driver version:     1.0.14
    # Library version:    1.0.17rc2
    # Utilities version:  1.0.17rc2
    This illustrates the effect of not install alsa-driver-kmp-default.

    So, assuming you still have the older 2.6.22.5-31 kernel, I recommend you update your alsa properly with the following 6 commands (while your laptop is connected to the internet). Copy and paste them into an xterm/konsole with root permissions, and execute them one at a time (in sequence):
    Code:
    zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/audio/openSUSE_10.3/ multimedia
    Code:
    zypper install alsa alsa-utils alsa-tools alsa-firmware alsa-oss alsa-oss-32bit alsa-plugins alsa-devel libasound2
    Code:
    zypper rr multimedia
    Code:
    zypper ar http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/audio:/KMP/openSUSE_10.3/ multimedia
    Code:
    zypper install alsa-driver-kmp-default
    Code:
    zypper rr multimedia
    Then edit your /etc/modprobe.d/sound file such that it reads like this:
    Code:
    options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=3stack
    # u1Nb.wUq5O6bR3r1:82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
    alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
    Then restart your PC and check your sound.

    Note the above solution is not for openSUSE-11.0 users, but it is for openSUSE-10.3 users with an older 2.6.22.5-31 kernel.

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    Default Re: No sound from internal speaker in Dell Inspiron 1420

    Thanks... thanks... thanks... old cpu.... lotz of thanks... my inbuilt speakers are now working....

    what i did is simply the following:
    additions in /etc/modprobe.d/sound like:
    options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=3stack position_fix=0 single_cmd=0
    # u1Nb.wUq5O6bR3r1:82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
    alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel



    then i edited the /etc/init.d/boot.local file, added the rcalsasound restart command, as alsa was required to be restarted evvery time i boot the system...


    thanks to oldcpu and melano.... i got the fix in the link:
    No Sound In Speaker(laptop) - openSUSE Forums

    This is the wrong command. The command to obtain /etc/modprobe.d/sound file information is:
    cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound
    this is not the wrong command, i suppose, as i was already in the /etc/modprobe.d directory..... anyway, thanks a lot.....

    however microphone is still NOT working...

    i will be busy for 2 days,after which i can play with it again....
    can i have some suggestions to fix my microphone from the sound-master of opensuse forum (u know who i am talking of.....).....
    thank u oldcpu... once again....

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    i must admit, u are a genius, oldcpu....
    u solved it so smoothly......
    thank u a lot....

    plz give me suggestions for doing the microphone....

    i will update the alsa as u recommended as soon as possible, nd give u a reply.....

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    Default Re: No sound from internal speaker in Dell Inspiron 1420

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    my inbuilt speakers are now working....
    Great! congratulatoins!!

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    what i did is simply the following:
    additions in /etc/modprobe.d/sound like:
    options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=3stack position_fix=0 single_cmd=0
    # u1Nb.wUq5O6bR3r1:82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
    alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
    Was that without updating alsa?

    If you updated alsa, then I think the "position_fix=0 single_cmd=0" may not be necessary, although I have read of other Dell Inspiron 1420 users applying that setting.

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    then i edited the /etc/init.d/boot.local file, added the rcalsasound restart command, as alsa was required to be restarted evvery time i boot the system...
    Are you certain this is necessary for every boot?

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    .... i got the fix in the link:
    No Sound In Speaker(laptop) - openSUSE Forums
    I vaguely remember that.

    Quote Originally Posted by banskt View Post
    however microphone is still NOT working... .....can i have some suggestions to fix my microphone
    Can you advise what the current status is of your alsa?

    I think you need to update to the 1.0.17 per the commands I gave. Also, can you run the diagnostic script again, and provide the output URL. To run the script (with your PC connected to the internet) and type root password when prompted for a password:
    Code:
    wget http://home.cfl.rr.com/infofiles/tsalsa && su -c 'bash ./tsalsa'
    To test your mic, I recommend you use "arecord", with command lines like:
    arecord -d 10 myrecording.wav
    and
    arecord -d 10 -f cd myrecording2.wav
    Notice "-d 10" means 10 second recording. Change it to "-d 5" and you get a 5 second recording.

    You need to pay close attention to your mixer. In my case, after ensure my "mic" was selected (for an external mic, as opposed to "internal mic" for an internal laptop mic) I also had to activate the mic in my mixer, ensure capture and volume levels (for the mic) were adequate, and ensure I had selected the "boost", and finally, for a good 10 minute I was stumped because my kmix was mis-configured, specifically under the "switches tab" which had "surround jack mode" set to "shared" instead of "independent". I don't even know what that means, but it was enough to stop my capability to record audio, until I changed to "independent".

    Your experience will be different, but the point is be very careful and exact with your mixer.

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    Default Re: No sound from internal speaker in Dell Inspiron 1420

    I have this laptop, and with 10.3 I remember having to use the updated ALSA. But when I did, I never had to do any of the more exotic things you have done to get this working.

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    Default Re: No sound from internal speaker in Dell Inspiron 1420

    Quote Originally Posted by einheit47 View Post
    I have this laptop, and with 10.3 I remember having to use the updated ALSA. But when I did, I never had to do any of the more exotic things you have done to get this working.
    That is what I suspect as well.

    With alsa 1.0.16, the auto detection of one's sound card hardware codec was improved. ...

    However with my having typed that, I also note openSUSE-11.0 took a step back in this area, and for openSUSE-11.0, in some cases, it is necessary to specify one's audio.

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    Default Re: No sound from internal speaker in Dell Inspiron 1420

    Happily, that was not the case with this laptop. In 11.0 I just had to adjust the mixer levels and everything was fine.

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    Was that without updating alsa?
    Yes, that was done without updating alsa.... I don't know why i did that without updating it... but it worked.... I am going to update the alsa and give the results soon...

    Are you certain this is necessary for every boot?
    Yes, it is absolutely necessary for every boot... for sure..


    Can you advise what the current status is of your alsa?
    I have not changed my alsa status since my first post...


    I am playing with my mic for quite a long time.. i wil play the rest of the game after updating my alsa, as u have suggested... nd give the results...

    In the meantime I have a dilemma... seeing me in trouble one of my friends gave me the openSUSE 11.0 dvd.. shall i upgrade it or shall i keep fighting with this 10.3?
    To be specific, I wanna give some details.. I use my laptop mainly for 4 purposes, rest the others : a)programming(FORTRAN & GROMACS) & Matlab for my phd work
    b)using skype, c)netsurfing and d)watching a whole bunch of movies.... and I have various other problems apart from the sound... like realmedia, flash player, mic, etc,etc,etc.... most of which are probably related to the 64-bit architecture....

    what shall I do? shall I upgrade the alsa? or start from the beginning with 11.0 at hand???
    My specs: Dell Inspiron 1420,2GB RAM,Intel T7250 core 2 duo, Intel X3100 GMA, winXP, openSUSE (which version???)

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