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    Default Weird zypper problem!

    See for yourself people:

    Code:
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper refresh
    Repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS)' is up to date.
    Repository 'Packman Repository' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - X11:XGL' is up to date.
    Repository 'VideoLan Repository' is up to date.
    Repository 'ATI Repository' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (VirtualBox)' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Wine CVS Builds' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - XFCE' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community' is up to date.
    Repository 'Main Repository (OSS)' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE-11.0-Updates' is up to date.
    All repositories have been refreshed.
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper lu
    Reading installed packages...
    Patches
    
    Warning: These are only the updates affecting the updater itself.
    Other updates are available too.
    
    Repository            | Name    | Version | Category    | Status
    ----------------------+---------+---------+-------------+-------
    openSUSE-11.0-Updates | libzypp | 53      | recommended | Needed
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper up libzypp
    Reading installed packages...
    Package 'libzypp' is not installed.
    Nothing to do.
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper in libzypp
    Reading installed packages...
    'libzypp' is already installed.
    Nothing to do.
    WTF?
    Is anyone having these crazy problems with zypper's resolver?

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    Quote Originally Posted by sidnelson13 View Post
    See for yourself people:

    Code:
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper refresh
    Repository 'Main Repository (NON-OSS)' is up to date.
    Repository 'Packman Repository' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mozilla' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - OpenOffice.org' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - X11:XGL' is up to date.
    Repository 'VideoLan Repository' is up to date.
    Repository 'ATI Repository' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Backports' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (VirtualBox)' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Wine CVS Builds' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - XFCE' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community' is up to date.
    Repository 'Main Repository (OSS)' is up to date.
    Repository 'openSUSE-11.0-Updates' is up to date.
    All repositories have been refreshed.
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper lu
    Reading installed packages...
    Patches
    
    Warning: These are only the updates affecting the updater itself.
    Other updates are available too.
    
    Repository            | Name    | Version | Category    | Status
    ----------------------+---------+---------+-------------+-------
    openSUSE-11.0-Updates | libzypp | 53      | recommended | Needed
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper up libzypp
    Reading installed packages...
    Package 'libzypp' is not installed.
    Nothing to do.
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper in libzypp
    Reading installed packages...
    'libzypp' is already installed.
    Nothing to do.
    WTF?
    Is anyone having these crazy problems with zypper's resolver?
    At first I was gonna say me because I was tracking all the way up until zypper in and then everything went like it should..are you having problems with the GUI zypper?

    Might sound weird, but you might try updating or reinstalling it thru YaST and see if it gets happy go lucky...or...you may try a downgrade (UGH...I know..) using the 11.0 disc and then an upgrade using refreshed repos and see if that gets the desired result.

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    zypper is just 'goofy'...I noticed this about a week ago:

    For any package FOO that is already installed:

    'zypper install FOO'
    returns 'FOO is already installed'

    'zypper update FOO'
    returns 'FOO is not installed'.

    So, I just ignore this foolishness. [Just another sign that 11.0 is
    living up to that old adage 'beware a release that ends in '.0' ]

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    Quote Originally Posted by cookdav View Post
    'zypper update FOO'
    returns 'FOO is not installed'.
    You are absolutely correct, but:
    # LANG=C zypper update -t package k3b
    Reading installed packages...
    No update candidate for 'k3b'.
    Nothing to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by cookdav View Post
    So, I just ignore this foolishness. [Just another sign that 11.0 is
    living up to that old adage 'beware a release that ends in '.0' ]
    And the zypper from 10.3 what a sign of was? ;-)


    About the first problem. zypper installed that update for me using "-t package" (I *always* use it). But your output is clearly a bug... report it copying&pasting what you wrote here.
    The account for bugzilla is the same that you use in the forum, so everything you need to do is think a better title ;-)

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    i noticed that sometimes zypper just starts eating up my cpu. after a reboot it acts normally so far.

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    @sosaudio1: YAST works fine. No problems with it. But one of the problems with YAST is that is doesn't have an option of "list-updates". Ithis is something I really wish it had on YAST. I know, you can always go to "Repositories" and then "@System" and select "All in this list -> Update is newer available", but you know it's not as user-friendly as an "Updatables" section.


    @RedDwarf: Well, I tried using the "zypper -t libzypp" and this is what it gave me:

    <code>sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper -t libzypp
    --terse is not implemented, does nothing
    Unknown command 'libzypp'
    Type 'zypper help' to get a list of global options and commands.</code>

    Anyway, I did an update for zypper (now version 0.11.9-0.1) through YAST, and the problem was still there. I'll go file a bug.

    Thanks everyone.

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    Ok, just an update everyone.

    Instead of using the zypper command-line, I decided I would try using "opensuseupdater-kde", and here's what happened:

    1 - Opened updater
    2 - Selected "Check Now" from Right-click menu on tray icon.
    3 - It warned me that there was an update that affected the updater itself (libzypp, I guess. )
    4 - It allegedly installed the update (in a blink!!! Wasn't it installed already? YES, IT WAS!).
    5 - It restarted itself.
    6 - I select "Check Now" once more. This time, a whole bunch of other updates came up.
    7 - So I say "What the hell?" and try this time to execute once more "zypper lu" on command-line.

    Code:
    sgameiro-laptop:/home/sgameiro # zypper lu
    Reading installed packages...
    Patches
    
    Repository            | Name             | Version | Category    | Status
    ----------------------+------------------+---------+-------------+-------
    openSUSE-11.0-Updates | kernel           | 67      | security    | Needed
    openSUSE-11.0-Updates | libpoppler-devel | 77      | security    | Needed
    openSUSE-11.0-Updates | xorg-x11         | 65      | recommended | Needed
    openSUSE-11.0-Updates | yast2-qt-pkg     | 63      | recommended | Needed
    I'll be **********!

    8 - ...
    9 - Profit!

    Anyway, I can't even begin to guess where the problem is. I think it is on command-line zypper, but then again, doesn't opensuseupdater-kde uses it as a backend or some sort?

    Well, anyway, problem solved.
    Last edited by sidnelson13; 08-Jul-2008 at 20:00. Reason: Formatting

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    Quote Originally Posted by sidnelson13 View Post
    @RedDwarf: Well, I tried using the "zypper -t libzypp" and this is what it gave me:
    "-t package", no "-t <package>" ;-)

    What I always use to update my system is "zypper -v up -t package".
    Note that with "zypper up" packages from all your BuildService*, ATI and Packman repositories will not be updated. You will only receive updates from "openSUSE-11.0-Updates".

    I don't use opensuseupdater-kde because of: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=402770

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    Quote Originally Posted by RedDwarf View Post
    "-t package", no "-t <package>" ;-)

    What I always use to update my system is "zypper -v up -t package".
    Hi there.

    I tried once more the "-t package" now. I didn't know about this option, neither its difference. Thanks for the tip! Command-line zypper's default -t is set to patch.

    Also, I have found that there seems to be an option under the configuration of the opensuseupdate-kde applet that also shows available packages, not only the patches (which I think covers the -t option). It won't change the icon displayed, but if you mouse over, it will indicate that there are updates, and these updates will be displayed under a different tab called "Updates".

    I'm not at my opensuse right now (at work), but the option to be selected is something like "Display package updates when made available by backend", or something like that.

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: Weird zypper problem!

    Quote Originally Posted by sidnelson13 View Post
    I'm not at my opensuse right now (at work), but the option to be selected is something like "Display package updates when made available by backend", or something like that.
    Yes, it's the same than zypper up -t package... but ignoring repository priorities. *If* you would like repo priorities to not be ignored leave a comment in bug #402770.

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