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    joffeloff NNTP User

    Default How to boot from disc after faulty install

    Hello,

    I recently tried installing openSUSE on my Intel/ATI equipped laptop. It's the third distro I try so far and the third distro that simply hangs with a black screen after a brief bootup period.

    Having lost patience with all of this, I tried to insert my XP restore disc. It is impossible to enter the bios on my laptop - all I can do is press ESC to get a boot menu, where I can choose hard drive, network, flash drive or disc. It's worked perfectly several times this weekend, however with openSUSE it no longer works. After selecting dvd (and yes I did select dvd, tried it several times) I simply get the grub screen where I get to choose between openSUSE installation that doesn't work and openSUSE failsafe mode that won't let me log in to anything but root and persists in hanging after reboot.

    No, I do not want help getting it to work. I have lost my patience with it, and I need a laptop that works. Please help me regain the ability to boot from dvd, it's worked before but not any more after installing this distro.

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    ab@novell.com NNTP User

    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

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    Linux cannot have anything to do with your ability to boot from a DVD
    drive. Go into your BIOS (it's not impossible.... it just may not tell
    you how on the screen.... try Del, Esc, F1, F12, or other Fxx keys to
    get in there) and make sure everything is set properly.

    Considering all of your excitement you may want to check out other parts
    of your hardware. If you cannot boot reliably from DVD (which is all
    done by the BIOS and other things that load before Linux) and before
    were unable to install any of the Linux distros you may have a problem
    with the driver, or the controller, or something like that. Was your
    original install of XP done via that same DVD drive and media?

    Good luck.





    joffeloff wrote:
    | Hello,
    |
    | I recently tried installing openSUSE on my Intel/ATI equipped laptop.
    | It's the third distro I try so far and the third distro that simply
    | hangs with a black screen after a brief bootup period.
    |
    | Having lost patience with all of this, I tried to insert my XP restore
    | disc. It is impossible to enter the bios on my laptop - all I can do is
    | press ESC to get a boot menu, where I can choose hard drive, network,
    | flash drive or disc. It's worked perfectly several times this weekend,
    | however with openSUSE it no longer works. After selecting dvd (and yes
    | I did select dvd, tried it several times) I simply get the grub screen
    | where I get to choose between openSUSE installation that doesn't work
    | and openSUSE failsafe mode that won't let me log in to anything but
    | root and persists in hanging after reboot.
    |
    | No, I do not want help getting it to work. I have lost my patience with
    | it, and I need a laptop that works. Please help me regain the ability to
    | boot from dvd, it's worked before but not any more after installing this
    | distro.
    |
    |
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    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

    Help is on the way..

    Sorry it had to be that way..

    have you tried to rstore your BIOS to the defaults (even on laptops this can be done with a jumper, key combination or removing the CMOS battery.

    If you enter your recovery CD/DVD press the appropriate button to open the bootmenu. if you can boot from an installcd form XP you can try to fix the MBR (the location where SuSe installs its bootloader) back to normal.. If you have repartitioned your entire drive.. too bad.. not even the restore DVD can help you because it needs the special partition on your HD to function.

    let us know if you need anymore help

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    joffeloff NNTP User

    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

    There's nothing wrong with the drive itself because I've burned out three different distros on three different discs and used them all in the course of this weekend and today, I used the same method to boot from them and they worked, but my xp restore disc won't. Maybe the disc just doesn't work. It's not the install disc, it's a laptop so it came with the OS preinstalled, and this restore disc wrapped in plastic. I just decided to try it today, and given that it hasn't been touched by human hand since manufacture I figured it would work. I guess not, then. Darn asus..

    And no, I can't boot from the cd at all, trying to do so just brings me to grub with the two choices 'opensuse' and 'opensuse failsafe mode'.

    Is there a fast and easy way to install opensuse that will actually work with a mobility radeon x700? The only distro that has actually worked so far is ARCH LINUX and I just can't be bothered with all that setup again, I just want the thing to work.

    also, I have tried all manners of delete and f-key combinations and none will give me bios. all i can get is the boot option menu I mentioned.

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    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

    What's the make and model of the laptop? and is there an Internet link to download the handbook?
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    ab@novell.com NNTP User

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    You're not getting to the DVD if those are the only two options you
    have. An install CD/DVD will have around eight options including 'Boot
    from Hard Disk' and 'Installation'. Since you don't have those the DVD
    drive is not booting from the DVD and instead is booting from something
    lese (HDD probably).

    Good luck.





    joffeloff wrote:
    | There's nothing wrong with the drive itself because I've burned out
    | three different distros on three different discs and used them all in
    | the course of this weekend and today, I used the same method to boot
    | from them and they worked, but my xp restore disc won't. Maybe the disc
    | just doesn't work. It's not the install disc, it's a laptop so it came
    | with the OS preinstalled, and this restore disc wrapped in plastic. I
    | just decided to try it today, and given that it hasn't been touched by
    | human hand since manufacture I figured it would work. I guess not,
    | then. Darn asus..
    |
    | And no, I can't boot from the cd at all, trying to do so just brings me
    | to grub with the two choices 'opensuse' and 'opensuse failsafe mode'.
    |
    | Is there a fast and easy way to install opensuse that will actually
    | work with a mobility radeon x700? The only distro that has actually
    | worked so far is ARCH LINUX and I just can't be bothered with all that
    | setup again, I just want the thing to work.
    |
    | also, I have tried all manners of delete and f-key combinations and
    | none will give me bios. all i can get is the boot option menu I
    | mentioned.
    |
    |
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    joffeloff NNTP User

    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

    It's an Asus M6800VA, it's gone from asus' website (clearly they care more about forking new products than legacy support), here's a link to someone with better luck than me;

    PjVenda's Homepage - linux / laptops / asus m6800va

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    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

    Quote Originally Posted by joffeloff View Post
    It's an Asus M6800VA, it's gone from asus' website (clearly they care more about forking new products than legacy support), here's a link to someone with better luck than me;

    PjVenda's Homepage - linux / laptops / asus m6800va
    Looking around the net on google for [asus "bios key"] reveals press tab on boot to reveal the bios and other keys. Also to activate the bios key start from a cold boot rather than a reboot on some asus machines.
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    joffeloff NNTP User

    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

    Got into the bios, set dvd as main boot device, doesn't make an ounce of difference. Still end up in grub, still a catch-22 of an OS that won't let me do anything and won't work.

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    Default Re: How to boot from disc after faulty install

    it wasn't any OS installation that prevented you from bootinga DVD..

    As mentioned earlier you seem to boot from HDD and not from any DVD.. Have you had any luck cold booting (so powerdown the laptop completely) and pressing the TAB key (or other mentioned keys in the post above)

    what you could try is to retry an installation (if you can boot from the openSuse DVD - you will recognize it from the disks in the splashimage and the welcome message in different languages) is to add the ATI repository and install the ATI drivers for your graphics card. this would help out i guess, because it sounds to me X (the graphic Window Manager)is not starting allright...

    you COULD try another graphic enviroment XFCE or icewm from the install menu. but i fear it might not help you out..

    good luck

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