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    damphoud NNTP User

    Default Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    I'm sure this has been discussed a few times, but I cant seem to get a definitive answer. I always run into people who want linux installed on their computer, but I have a hard choice. Should I install Ubuntu or openSUSE? I've been running different linux distros for the past 2-3 years, but I do not consider myself a power user. I wouldn't know how one could benefit a new user over the other, except for feel of the os. I'm kind of leaning towards openSUSE...

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    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    Since you're asking it in a SUSE forum, we all recommend SUSE over Ubuntu. On the other side, it's a personal preference which you like/use the most so it's up to you to make the choice.

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    damphoud NNTP User

    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    That is why I posted in here. I had posted the same thread in the Ubuntu forums, and the majority said Ubuntu. Just to conclude that it is personal preferences, and one does not stand out to be easier then the other, I would post in openSUSE forums.

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    google01103 NNTP User

    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    damphoud wrote:

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    > That is why I posted in here. I had posted the same thread in the Ubuntu
    > forums, and the majority said Ubuntu. Just to conclude that it is
    > personal preferences, and one does not stand out to be easier then the
    > other, I would post in openSUSE forums.
    >
    >

    I thought this "blog" summed up things really well
    http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=8988
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    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    Even though most people here would say its personal preference, I still say openSUSE.

    Why?

    Alright the first time I installed SUSE linux 9.2 when I was 13 without anyone's help

    Now I wanted to create a dsl connection and started looking for a control center and found Yast and immediately with the help of a wizard I had a DSL connection setup and I saw kinternet appear at the bottom and I connected with ease.

    The first time I tried Ubuntu (yuck) was when I was 16 or 17 maybe, not sure but anyway I had quite a time trying to setup a DSL connection there until I went through their help center and found I have to type in commands like

    sudo pppoeconf
    sudo pon dsl-provider

    and to check whether its connected or type in "plog"

    that was more difficult for me rather than clicking on a kinternet icon and connecting, don't u think?

    This is just one example but it shows how openSUSE is easier for most things and most of my friends who use OS X would rather die than use the command line, they want everything point and click and thats what suse gives a GUI tool for everything

    The decision is up to though

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    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    for absolute beginners? mmm, I would probably suggest either Mint5 or pardus2008. Those truly are plug'n'play distros that work out of the box without any knowledge of *ux required.

    For someone wanting to learn linux I'd say Opensuse or Fedora would be better.

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    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    I installed Gutsy and got help in the UbuForums. About 70 posts in all -- enough to form a valid opinion.

    I like Ubuntu, look, feel, what it does for a user behind the scenes. And it's hard to make an objective comparison with openSUSE -- but FWIW I see them as on a par in the new user sense.

    What I don't like is the Ubuntu Forum support for new users. I would ask a question and often get well meaning but misguided answers from the folk there. That would have been very frustrating if I had been a new Linuxer. There is a lot of that there. It doesn't happen much here; the advice is nearly always sound.

    And people here are technically savvy and supportive. There's the occasional person seeking a boost at someone's expense but that's quite rare here.
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    Kevin Nathan NNTP User

    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:36:04 GMT
    damphoud <damphoud@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

    >
    >I'm sure this has been discussed a few times, but I cant seem to get a
    >definitive answer. I always run into people who want linux installed on
    >their computer, but I have a hard choice. Should I install Ubuntu or
    >openSUSE? I've been running different linux distros for the past 2-3
    >years, but I do not consider myself a power user. I wouldn't know how
    >one could benefit a new user over the other, except for feel of the os.
    >I'm kind of leaning towards openSUSE...
    >


    From personal experience at work, Kubuntu seems to be preferred by
    users coming from Windows and not knowing about Linux or caring what
    the OS is. We tried Ubuntu, but most thought it 'too different'. Of
    course, I suppose that could be worked around, but KDE is still the
    most like Windows.

    The majority of our clients are on Kubuntu (we do not support Windows
    any more) and I am the only one in the office that uses openSUSE. Most
    of the others use Gentoo and all of our servers are Gentoo except for
    one openSUSE 10.1 (we lost our last slackware server to massive
    hardware failure -- 1000+ days uptime!).

    As others have said, it's more of a personal choice but Kubuntu seems
    pretty solid and handles everything the users need in our clients
    offices, as would openSUSE of course, but we chose Kubuntu for speed
    of install, ease of use and low maintenance.

    For all installations I do on my own time, for family/friends, it's
    openSUSE all the way. I'm most familiar with it now, of course, but it
    also has a pretty impressive list of available programs (thank you,
    Packman, in addition to all the others!) that make it easy for you to
    give the user the most compatibility with Windows. And, since most of
    the people they know use Windows, that is most important.

    Also keep in mind: if you are going to do the install, it doesn't
    matter what distro you use as long as you set it up to be comfortable
    for the user. If they are going to do the install, without your help, I
    would probably lean towards Kubuntu rather than openSUSE -- six or
    eight mouse clicks and they're done. (But, from what I have heard of
    openSUSE 11, that might change; I will be doing my 11 install in the
    next few hours.)


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    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    I've used Ubuntu for about three years and overall I've had a good experience with it. Yes, I did have problems but most were solved. Just started using openSuse for the first time, and I am impressed.

    have been using:
    PCLOS
    sidux
    Mint
    and now, openSuse

    I submit and chat in all the forums and I would agree that Ubuntu's forum is less responsive to answering questions. PCLOS and sidux have very helpful and informative forums. It's looking like openSuse is also a very good forum.

    After going to back to KDE 3 (until KDE 4.1 comes out) I've been very impressed with opensuse 11. Very responsive and even though I haven't configured my nvidia card yet, it's still very sharp and clear fonts and images.

    Thanks for a great distro.

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    Jim Henderson NNTP User

    Default Re: Ubuntu or openSUSE for new users?

    On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:46:04 +0000, damphoud wrote:

    > That is why I posted in here. I had posted the same thread in the Ubuntu
    > forums, and the majority said Ubuntu.


    If you go to a Ford dealership and ask if you should buy a Ford or a
    Toyota, why would you be surprised that they said "a Ford, of course"?

    This type of thing has always puzzled me.

    Jim

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