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    Default Has anyone been able to get 11.0 and vista to work together?

    I've had problems getting both to work, right now the grub loader is not showing up on suse 11.0, when I boot up my computer, it goes right into windows, without displaying the screen where I can select to go into windows or suse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adaykin View Post
    I've had problems getting both to work, right now the grub loader is not showing up on suse 11.0, when I boot up my computer, it goes right into windows, without displaying the screen where I can select to go into windows or suse.
    Try this: boot off the dvd and immediately select to "repair installed system" on the very first screen. Then "Expert Tools". Then "Install New Boot Loader". Check that in the second tab you have the X instructing to put the code in the MBR.Then "Finish". Then Exit the repair process.

    Then you should be able to boot into Suse but perhaps not windows but don't worry -- that in step 2 below:
    If you then have troubles with windows (possibly will) then boot into Suse and go to Yast --> System --> Boot Loader. The Grub configuration screen comes up with the Tab "Section Management" activated. In the lower right is a drop-down selector labelled "Other". Select from "Other" the option "Propose New Configuration" and then wait for Grub to analyse your partitions and display a new configuration. This may take a while. Important: When that finishes, activate the tab labelled "Boot Loader Installation" and select to "Boot from the Master Boot Record". [Yast will often default to booting from the root or boot partition rather than from the MBR but that's for experts only -- always choose the MBR.] Then click Finish to save the changes and install the reconfigured Grub into the hard drive's MBR. If you get a message that "The bootloader boot sector will be written to a floppy disk ......... don't bother with the floppy -- just click OK to proceed and install to the MBR. Reboot and you should be able to boot to openSUSE using the Grub menu screen which now shoould include windows.

    If you still can't get to windows then post back here the contents of the file /boot/grub/menu.lst plus the output from the console command fdisk -l. To get at menu.lst you will have to get superuser powers going to read menu.lst because of -rw------- permissions on the file.
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    I did what you said, and then I tried to fix the boot manager when I was in suse. I rebooted and went to the windows option on the grub boot loader. Then I got an error message (the same as before) saying that a file was missing, so I had to use the windows dvd to fix that so I could log into windows. After that I tried one more time to get into suse by doing the repair option from the DVD. Now I get a white screen when I log into suse that hangs. So it seems I can't have both operating systems on a dual boot. I wish they would have done some testing with this before they released 11.0. But for now I need to be productive for work so I will have to stick with windows.
    If anyone has been able to get this to work I would like to know, and how you got it working.
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    Default Re: Has anyone been able to get 11.0 and vista to work toget

    Quote Originally Posted by adaykin View Post
    I did what you said, and then I tried to fix the boot manager when I was in suse. I rebooted and went to the windows option on the grub boot loader. Then I got an error message (the same as before) saying that a file was missing, so I had to use the windows dvd to fix that so I could log into windows. After that I tried one more time to get into suse by doing the repair option from the DVD. Now I get a white screen when I log into suse that hangs. So it seems I can't have both operating systems on a dual boot. I wish they would have done some testing with this before they released 11.0. But for now I need to be productive for work so I will have to stick with windows.
    If anyone has been able to get this to work I would like to know, and how you got it working.
    You were nearly there when you had the Suse boot and the Windows boot on the same list. The last fix was a tweak for the windows bit. Recall I said:
    If you still can't get to windows then post back here the contents of the file /boot/grub/menu.lst plus the output from the console command fdisk -l. To get at menu.lst you will have to get superuser powers going to read menu.lst because of -rw------- permissions on the file.
    That was so I could point out the tweak to get windows correctly booting.

    It should work if you do it again and do both the steps.

    On the other hand if you're too nervous about losing boot to windows, there's the option of adding Suse to the windows bootloader. But it's moderately advanced. Read it here:
    Boot Multiboot openSUSE Windows (2000, XP, Vista - any mix) with Windows bootloader.

    Personally, since you were so close except for doing the last step, I recommend the first option that you nearly concluded before. It really boils down to editing this sort of entry in menu.lst text file:
    title windows
    rootnoverify (hd0,Z)
    chainloader (hd0,0)+1
    so that it looks like this:
    title windows
    rootnoverify (hd0,0)
    chainloader (hd0,0)+1
    If you redo it and can't figure out how to do fdisk -l or how to get the contents of menu.lst posted here, you could simply edit the file menu.lst and take a chance you got it right; but you'd need to edit it as superuser.

    Swerdna

    PS there's a sticky on just this problem at beginning of this forum
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    Well I would have done what you said, if my entire screen didn't turn white when I tried to log into suse, which I mentioned in my previous post. I tried repairing, but that didn't fix the problem. Even the failsafe can't boot up properly. For now I am just gonna hold off unless someone can confirm that they have the two working side by side, and can post details on how they did it.
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    You're having a lot of bad luck adaykin. Just for interest, what's your video card and which desktop KDE4, KDE3.5, Gnome? are you using.
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    Default Re: Has anyone been able to get 11.0 and vista to work toget

    On the other hand if you're too nervous about losing boot to windows, there's the option of adding Suse to the windows bootloader. But it's moderately advanced. Read it here:
    Boot Multiboot openSUSE Windows (2000, XP, Vista - any mix) with Windows bootloader.

    swerdna
    The article mentions creating a boot.ini file in Vista. If you do this, how does it affect/interact with the Vista bootloader, BCD?
    Just curious. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swerdna View Post
    You're having a lot of bad luck adaykin. Just for interest, what's your video card and which desktop KDE4, KDE3.5, Gnome? are you using.
    I have been using KDE4, and my video card is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600
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    Default Re: Has anyone been able to get 11.0 and vista to work toget

    Quote Originally Posted by Marrea View Post
    On the other hand if you're too nervous about losing boot to windows, there's the option of adding Suse to the windows bootloader. But it's moderately advanced. Read it here:
    Boot Multiboot openSUSE Windows (2000, XP, Vista - any mix) with Windows bootloader.

    swerdna
    The article mentions creating a boot.ini file in Vista. If you do this, how does it affect/interact with the Vista bootloader, BCD?
    Just curious. Thanks.
    Vista has been programmed to recognise "boot.ini" as a bootloader file and to incorporate the menu from boot.ini into the menu it presents each time you boot. I discovered that if you put a boot.ini file (containing a pointer to Suse) on the vista bootloader partition, then vista recognises Suse and offeres it as an option. Later if you delete boot.ini, the Suse entry disappears from vista's menu and vista forgets about it. Vista is not "hurt" by adding or deleting a boot.ini file.
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    Default Re: Has anyone been able to get 11.0 and vista to work toget

    Quote Originally Posted by swerdna
    Vista has been programmed to recognise "boot.ini" as a bootloader file and to incorporate the menu from boot.ini into the menu it presents each time you boot. I discovered that if you put a boot.ini file (containing a pointer to Suse) on the vista bootloader partition, then vista recognises Suse and offeres it as an option. Later if you delete boot.ini, the Suse entry disappears from vista's menu and vista forgets about it. Vista is not "hurt" by adding or deleting a boot.ini file.
    swerdna

    Many thanks. Interesting. I wasn't aware you could do this. Amazing how you can learn something new about Windows from a Linux site!

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