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    Default zypper - yast - suse updater - never understood them

    hi all,

    can somebody explain me how and why zypper yast and suse updater applet give me every time different set of to be updated packages.
    like today i did zypper dup it did updated openoffice icons. then just for fun i went to yast and selected for all packages to be updated if newer version were available and i got k3b and some other packages.
    please tell me why zypper dup doesn't update everything what is there to be updated?
    thnx

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    Default Re: zypper - yast - suse updater - never understood them

    Did you run zypper ref first? Also, why are you running zypper dup instead of zypper up? Zypper dup is for distro upgrade, zypper up is for package updates.

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    Default Re: zypper - yast - suse updater - never understood them

    This can be puzzling and a good manual/doc would certainly not hurt.

    As I've understood so far, zypper dup will bring your official openSUSE related system packages up to date. So basically everything that comes in the OSS (Main), non-OSS and update repositories.

    YaST will look into all your repositories for all available update.

    These levels can also be set in the update applet, but I don't use that much so don't know the details.

    Hope that helps (& is correct),
    Wj
    Have a lot of fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69_rs_ss View Post
    Did you run zypper ref first? Also, why are you running zypper dup instead of zypper up? Zypper dup is for distro upgrade, zypper up is for package updates.
    i always run zypper ref then zypper up and then zypper dup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic31 View Post
    As I've understood so far, zypper dup will bring your official openSUSE related system packages up to date. So basically everything that comes in the OSS (Main), non-OSS and update repositories.

    YaST will look into all your repositories for all available update.
    hmmmm.....i think you are going to right direction there. looking at the packages updated by yast and zypper you might be right on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kartveli View Post
    i always run zypper ref then zypper up and then zypper dup
    Why not use the "Update System" option in the Application Browser? Does using the zypper commands pull packages otherwise not pulled by that?

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    Based on my knowledge of other package management system:
    zypper up will only update, but will not change the distributor (oss to packman) and will not delete packages that are not updated.

    zypper dup will update to the more recent version, regardless of distributor and will delete packages if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sefk View Post
    zypper dup will update to the more recent version, regardless of distributor and will delete packages if needed.
    It will still adhere to the priority status of each repo. In the case where the default status is used on everything then the point of distributorship has no bearing.
    <>---><^>

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    Hey guys,

    - zypper dup => only oss/nonoss/update repositories goes updated (no 3rd party like packman)
    - zypper up => apply only official security patch
    - zypper up -t package => update _all_ package, including 3rd party packages.

    The last one is what most of you want to do. Just do it

    Edit : oops, Redward already gave the right solution

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