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Thread: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

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    bkielczewski NNTP User

    Default KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    What's the difference between those two repositories?

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    You can see kde4:unstable as a more stable version of kde4:factory.

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    more stable?

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    Oh my mad, I thought that factory is now on 4.1

    You can't really compare factory to unstable, since it's 2 concepts.

    Opensuse's releases:
    10.2, 10.3, 11.0, factory

    Factory is the repo where packages are prepared for the next suse's release. So currently factory has packages for opensuse 11.1 (of course they will be updated).

    For each release, you have different repos.
    ex:
    kde4:stable for 10.2
    kde4:unstable for 10.2
    kde4:stable for 10.3
    kde4:unstable for 10.3
    kde4:stable for 11.0
    kde4:unstable for 11.0
    kde4:stable for factory
    kde4:unstable for factory

    If you are currently using opensuse 11.0 and you want the lastest developmental version of kde 4, you should use kde4:unstable for 11.0.
    If you want to use kde4:factory (which is in fact kde4:stable factory) on 11.0, you will have dependencies problem.

    I said more stable, because to install kde4 from a factory repo, you will have to update your whole 11.0 to factory packages to make sure that there wont be dependencies problems. However, since factory is a pure testing ground, you will have a lot of problems with stability. Also, once you have updated to factory, there is no way back: you can't use stable 11.0 packages.
    On the other hand, even if kde4:unstable for 11.0 is tagged as unstable, there is still minimum of care for stability since it will be installed on a 11.0 system (they will at least make sure that packages will install). So it's "more stable".

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    Or is he talking about this repo?

    Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0

    Seems like the factory repo is for opensuse 11 as well. I've enabled this, and I haven't run into any bad dependency issues (just had to get rid of some old packages).

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    The **** edit box doesn't work after 10 minutes. I just wanted to add something.

    bkielczewski is talking about the UNSTABLE repo:
    Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:

    and the FACTORY repo:
    Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:

    If you look at the packages and their version numbers, the Factory is older and therefore considered more stable. Unstable is cutting edge.

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    That seems to be a contradiction. A Factory repo for 11.0?
    <>---><^>

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    That's confusing

    They are currently restructuring the repository layout for kde: [opensuse-kde] Buildservice repository restructuring That's the current layout, but maybe it changes in the future.

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    Quote Originally Posted by Benjamin_Xiao View Post
    If you look at the packages and their version numbers, the Factory is older and therefore considered more stable. Unstable is cutting edge.
    Currently, yes. But once 11.1 cycle is launched, factory wont be stable anymore for a few months.

    A Factory repo for 11.0?
    It's confusion, but I think I have understand how it works.

    11.0 has 3 kde repo:
    Factory repo: sync to kde svn
    Unstable: showing kde 4 betas (4.1 alpha 1, alpha 2, beta 1, beta 2)
    Stable: kde 4 official releases: 4.1, 4.2, 4.3.

    I think they should instead take:
    kde4:daily
    kde4:testing
    kde4:stable

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    Default Re: KDE:/KDE4:/Factory vs KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE

    Quote Originally Posted by sefk
    11.0 has 3 kde repo:
    Factory repo: sync to kde svn
    Unstable: showing kde 4 betas (4.1 alpha 1, alpha 2, beta 1, beta 2)
    Stable: kde 4 official releases: 4.1, 4.2, 4.3
    I am confused. If Factory for 11.0 syncs to svn, why are the unstable packages newer?

    And why in the world would they flip it around for 11.1? That's so strange.

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