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    Thumbs down How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    I expected (as in KDE3) to right-click the desktop,
    to be able to create an application-launcher, but
    it's not there?

    What am I missing...there must be SOME way to do it?

    TIA...

    Dave

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    Default Re: How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    make sure widgets are unlocked and:

    1. go into the menu, find the app you want to add to the desktop and then right click > add to desktop.

    2. Bit harder, but works. Click add widget, find the generic icon. Drag it to the desktop. Go to your icon settings (right click on icon) and fill in the info, choose a picture and your done

    3. copy your icons to the desktop folder.

    1 is the easiest.

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    Default Re: How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    Quote Originally Posted by quickshade View Post
    make sure widgets are unlocked and:

    1. go into the menu, find the app you want to add to the desktop and then right click > add to desktop.

    2. Bit harder, but works. Click add widget, find the generic icon. Drag it to the desktop. Go to your icon settings (right click on icon) and fill in the info, choose a picture and your done

    3. copy your icons to the desktop folder.

    1 is the easiest.
    Yes, #1 I know about...but, I'm talking about a case when
    there is NOT already one present in the menus.

    #2: When I click 'add widget', I do NOT get anything that
    allows me to 'find a generic icon'...I get a list of
    what look like 'applets' and I don't want any of them.
    So, I'm confused totally about this one.

    #3. What do you mean by 'copy my icons to the desktop folder'?
    [i.e. what tool would I use? What are 'my icons'? (You
    use plural 'icons', but I only want to create one shortcut.)]

    Still confused...

    Dave

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    Default Re: How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    See what happened in KDE4 is that the desktop is now controlled by something called "Plasma". Everything that is on the desktop and panels is a "Plasma applet". In KDE 4.0 plasma was not really finished so unfortunately there are quite a few missing features. In KDE 4.1 this has been fixed but I'm afraid for KDE 4.0 (and hence openSUSE 11.0) you're stuck with these half-solutions.

    quickshade's solutions are correct. To explain a bit further:

    #2: As I said only Plasma applets are allowed on the desktop in KDE4. To add an application icon to your desktop, you have to actually add a plasma applet that holds that icon. This plasma applet is called "Icon". Add one of those and configure (right click and select configure icon) to get it to point at your application.

    #3: He means copy the .desktop files to your /home/user/Desktop/ folder. A .desktop file in this case is basically a linux "shortcut" file. If you open up your /home/user/Desktop folder in Konqueror/Dolphin, you should be able to right click and create a new "Link to Application". This should allow you to create a desktop file pointing wherever you want it to. This will then appear on your desktop because it is in your ~/Desktop folder. Note that this will not work in KDE 4.1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterPatricko View Post
    See what happened in KDE4 is that the desktop is now controlled by something called "Plasma". Everything that is on the desktop and panels is a "Plasma applet". In KDE 4.0 plasma was not really finished so unfortunately there are quite a few missing features. In KDE 4.1 this has been fixed but I'm afraid for KDE 4.0 (and hence openSUSE 11.0) you're stuck with these half-solutions.

    quickshade's solutions are correct. To explain a bit further:

    #2: As I said only Plasma applets are allowed on the desktop in KDE4. To add an application icon to your desktop, you have to actually add a plasma applet that holds that icon. This plasma applet is called "Icon". Add one of those and configure (right click and select configure icon) to get it to point at your application.

    #3: He means copy the .desktop files to your /home/user/Desktop/ folder. A .desktop file in this case is basically a linux "shortcut" file. If you open up your /home/user/Desktop folder in Konqueror/Dolphin, you should be able to right click and create a new "Link to Application". This should allow you to create a desktop file pointing wherever you want it to. This will then appear on your desktop because it is in your ~/Desktop folder. Note that this will not work in KDE 4.1!
    LOL, see what happens when you try and give directions at 3 in the morning.... anyways he explains it a bit better, to explain KDE 4.1, they have this sweet new folderview, which is a plasma applet that shows all the files in the place of your choice. The idea is that you could technically now create 2-3 folders of different programs and place a folderview of each one in separate desktops, meaning you could have a music desktop, a picture desktop and a kids desktop. I've been using it since they released it, and I like the possibility's (tabs anyone??)

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    Default Re: How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    Ok, I understand now.

    That said, #2 is broken. When you add such a plasma-icon,
    it has two problems (on my 11.0 system):
    (a)it only has 2 tabs, so you can't specify the 'cmd'.
    (b)permissions/ownership is fouled up. (It OUGHT to
    be owned by user's acct, like it is if you create
    it via #3 technique.)

    #3: Yup, that works.

    Bottom line, it's becoming quite clear that KDE4
    is definately still a work-in-progress, if they haven't
    even got this working yet.

    It's becoming clearer why Debian has decided to stay with
    kde 3.5.9 in their next release. Luckily, 11.0 users can go back
    and login as 'kde3' when they want the functionality that
    they're accustomed to. (11.0's DEFAULT-login ought to be
    KDE3, in my opinion...KDE4 is a time-waster and NOT ready
    for prime-time.)

    My 2-cents...

    Dave

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    Default Re: How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    Just remember that you did choose to install KDE4, and it was clearly labelled as less stable than KDE 3.5 Oh and BTW, unlike with other distributions, there is no default login desktop environment. openSUSE is extremely careful not to show any preference for any desktop environment, Gnome or KDE, KDE3 or KDE4, or even Xfce!

    But yes, it is universally agreed that KDE 4.0 is not quite production useable (including by KDE devs - although they insist that it wasn't meant to be ), but KDE 4.1 is shaping up well, don't worry! Plasma is a huge change in the way we interact with our desktops, and there are big changes under-the-hood in other areas as well, so give it time ... KDE 3.0 had major flaws as well but look at how good 3.5.9 is!

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    I agree that KDE 4.0.x is NOT ready for the masses..but I have been using it since 4.0.0 and it is quite usable now...and there seem to be many work-arounds to little irritating issues like this. 4.1 will be great....and I'm assuming that shortly after the 11.0 release that the KDE 4 repositories will let you easily upgrade to the 4.1 desktop once it's released. I have never had a problem replacing KDE with newer versions...so I'll keep my fingers crossed!

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    Default Re: How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    I'm waiting for openSUE 11 DVD so I can install 3.5.9 KDE4 is just not for me. I hope KDE3 stays around for a while longer. I can understand the vision, but plasma should have been an option.
    Klaatu Barada Nikto

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    Default Re: How to create a shortcut on KDE4 desktop?

    You can still install KDE 3.5.9 through the online repositories. I installed RC1 with KDE 4 to try out the packages. I then just installed the basic KDE 3 session packages so I can log in with a KDE 3 desktop, and I use mainly the KDE 4 apps.

    Or you can add the KDE 4 repositories, and ugprade to the new KDE 4.1 beta packages, and the desktop is different yet again. The whole icons are Plasmoids on the desktop thing didn't work out quite well. They are making a folder view Plasma applet, and supposedly when KDE 4.1 is released, all the right-click menus will work.

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