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    Default Updating 10.3 to 11.0

    Hey all,

    I'm just curious about something dealing with SUSE 11.0: I'm running 10.3 right now, and I have a good amount of applications and packages installed, and am looking to put 11.0 on this computer. My question is: how seemless is the update process in the 11.0 installer. I have an Nvidia card, and I know that 11.0 will need a different type of driver (as opposed to 10.3), so will all the packages directed solely at 10.3 be updated to the 11.0 version? Just want to know before I install 11.0 upon the release.

    Thank you for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen-Ghost View Post
    I have a good amount of applications and packages installed, and am looking to put 11.0 on this computer. My question is: how seemless is the update process in the 11.0 installer.
    It depends on the applications. If they are all Novell/SuSE-GmbH packaged apps that come with the DVD, then update should IMHO be very smooth.

    But if you have some 3rd party packaged applications, then it could be a difficult kettle of fish, and you could have many dependency issues to sort.

    I typically have hundreds of 3rd party packaged packages, which is a dependency nightmare to sort. Hence I simply do a complete clean install, retaining only my /home partition, and I re-install everything.

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    Default Re: Updating 10.3 to 11.0

    In addition to oldcpu's post i did a clean install with 11rc1.
    However the install was a bit different to previous versions.It suggested an installation in the free space on my drive and did not suggest formatting my existing partitions. However this may change with the GM release

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    I only have Novell/SUSE programs right now (not sure if XChat is a SUSE supported application), and the package from SUSE that contains the Java and basic online components (the name has slipped me). I just thought an update would be easier than a complete reinstall of SUSE. Thank you for the help; it is very much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcpu View Post
    Hence I simply do a complete clean install, retaining only my /home partition, and I re-install everything.
    I might add to oldcpu's insight:

    I installed 11.0 rc1 to a new partition with a new /home (clean install).
    During the install I added my 10.3 /home as /data3 in the partitioning phase. Now, I can easily get to it from "My Computer".

    I have slowly been bringing into 11.0 rc1 /home the "good" things I need -- like the Kmail "Mail" (hidden) folder & bingo, I open Kmail. do the setup for my ISP & there's all my old emails intact. Works with most everything I've tried.

    GM will go on those partitions, keeping that /home & a "clean" GM install.

    Hope this helps
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    Default Re: Updating 10.3 to 11.0

    Sorry, I'm a little confused: would a clean install, with backup of personal information, be a better idea. Or is that a last ditch if the update doesn't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen-Ghost View Post
    would a clean install, with backup of personal information, be a better idea. Or is that a last ditch if the update doesn't work?
    If you have the time, thats the approach that many try.

    Typically, you will find out about 15 minute (or less) into the install, if the update approach is going to create MAJOR dependency problems. ... and if you do encounter such problems, then abort the install, and go for a CLEAN install.

    Reference a back up of personal information, ... you really should do a backup anyway. Its real easy to mess up an install, and despite the best intentions to only do an update, wipe everything on your PC. ... I recommend a backup to an external drive (or to another networked PC).

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    Well, I have my files backuped to a CD for now, so that's no problem. I think I might just do a clean install, just to be absolutely sure that there are no problems in the future with library keys or dependencies. Thanks for the help guys and can't wait to use 11.0!

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    Default Re: Updating 10.3 to 11.0

    I tend to prefer a clean install all the way, though it is quite OK to keep your old /home
    I'll just backup and import only the data I really need. Everything just feels squeaky clean then.
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    Default Re: Updating 10.3 to 11.0

    snakedriver wrote:

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    > Unseen-Ghost;1814756 Wrote:
    >> Sorry, I'm a little confused: would a clean install, with backup of
    >> personal information, be a better idea. Or is that a last ditch if the
    >> update doesn't work?

    >
    > Sorry, I wasn't clear.
    >
    > A clean install is best as you do not have any leftover config files
    > floating around. Going from 10.2 to 10.3 may be OK, however, 10.3 to
    > 11.0 may be a little shakey. However, your update may work well (no way
    > of telling until someone tries it).
    >
    >
    > And, you should always backup your important stuff any time you go
    > messing with partitions, partition tables, etc., -- in any event.
    >
    > For sure do the backup
    >
    > Me, I'm gonna do a clean install.


    Just to see how it went, I tried an update from 10.2 (not .3) to RC1 and it
    went surprisingly well. Virtually all the third party apps survived and
    the number of conflicts was manageable. This was on a copy of the actual
    10.2 installation, but close enough to warrant at least an attempt when
    11.0 hits the street.

    The only real casualty was VirtualBox but that was no surprise.

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