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21-Jul-2013, 04:41
Drunken

Re: Auto Composor keys

I changed my signature right after posting. I haven't read DD's post yet. Then I would have replied to correct the error.

The auto compose is exactly the same as when you press alt in Linux without pressing alt. And Linux knows more combinations.

I know my keyboard is set to US (Engels (VS)). That's what YaST and KDE tell me. I did set the keyboard to US on installation and it's what I have ordered.

To bad you can't help me any further. It's just a very annoying function.

And my use of windows is forced... On my home computer I'm running only Linux for 10+ years now. Only on my laptop there is a small installation of windows for the use I'm forced to. (Some programs don't run in a VM)
21-Jul-2013, 05:08
robin_listas

Re: Auto Composor keys

On 2013-07-21 13:46, Drunken wrote:
> The auto compose is exactly the same as when you press alt in Linux
> without pressing alt. And Linux knows more combinations.

The correct name is not "auto compose" but "dead keys". That is how it
is found in documentation all over Internet.

> I know my keyboard is set to US (Engels (VS)). That's what YaST and KDE
> tell me.

A pure US keyboard definition has no dead keys at all. The '"' is just
'"' and it doesn't wait for a second key press. However, there is the
"US International" keyboard definition (here and in Windows) in which
the '"' key waits for a second key before deciding what to really
display. By the way, typing '""' produces a single '"'.

What you describe seems a non pure US keyboard.

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(from 12.3 x86_64 "Dartmouth" at Telcontar)
21-Jul-2013, 05:13
hcvv

Re: Auto Composor keys

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunken

I changed my signature right after posting. I haven't read DD's post yet. Then I would have replied to correct the error.

I think the whole signature case is clear now. Let us concentrate on your problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunken

The auto compose is exactly the same as when you press alt in Linux without pressing alt. And Linux knows more combinations.

This I do not undersrtand. What is "pressing alt in Linux without pressing alt"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunken

I know my keyboard is set to US (Engels (VS)). That's what YaST and KDE tell me. I did set the keyboard to US on installation and it's what I have ordered.

OK, thatis clear now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunken

To bad you can't help me any further. It's just a very annoying function.

None of us told you that we can not help you. But we must know what you do, what you expect to happen and what happened instead. We still do not know. How can we help with a solution when we do not understand the problem?
You seem to think that we all experience the same as you have, but I doubt that that is the case. But again we need a good, exact description of what happens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drunken

And my use of windows is forced... On my home computer I'm running only Linux for 10+ years now. Only on my laptop there is a small installation of windows for the use I'm forced to. (Some programs don't run in a VM)

We are not interested in the fact that you are using Windows some of the time. Some of the time I go for a cycle tour. But that is not interseting for your problem. You should only be aware that we do not much about Windows. Thus saying thinks like "it is like in Windows" does not help, because we do not know whhat "like Windows" is.

Beste Drunken,

Is het niet het beste om dit in het Nederlands te doen? Start dan een nieuwe draad in het Nederlandse gedeelte van deze forums.

Groeten,
21-Jul-2013, 06:21
DenverD

Re: Auto Composor keys

On 07/20/2013 09:06 PM, hcvv wrote:
> And I can add that this incident again stiffens my idea that such
> things should*not* be in the signature.

i jump to agree with you! (and, if you write it in the forum feedback
sub-forum i will agree again):

imo the sig should NOT change once the post is submitted *or*
system data should be *banned* in the sig, but *required* in the
message body....and, if missing then *all* answers are blocked until
the OP designates needed system info.

but, i guess this might be a molehill>mountain problem.

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dd
21-Jul-2013, 06:43
hcvv

Re: Auto Composor keys

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverD

On 07/20/2013 09:06 PM, hcvv wrote:
> And I can add that this incident again stiffens my idea that such
> things should*not* be in the signature.

i jump to agree with you! (and, if you write it in the forum feedback
sub-forum i will agree again):

imo the sig should NOT change once the post is submitted *or*
system data should be *banned* in the sig, but *required* in the
message body....and, if missing then *all* answers are blocked until
the OP designates needed system info.

but, i guess this might be a molehill>mountain problem.

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dd

I do not agree, but I do also not discuss this anymore here. I want to concentrate on the OP's problem.
21-Jul-2013, 06:50
DenverD

Re: Auto Composor keys

On 07/19/2013 11:46 PM, Drunken wrote:
> How can I remove the irratating and bad for normal
> use auto composer key?

we have learned (thanks Carlos) that the correct term is "dead keys"
and a search finds problems with dead keys in openSUSE 12.3, see:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817940

more, i see a still unanswered question "is some nice way using the
keyboard configuration to disable dead keys" in
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/g...hout-them.html

and, from http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2.../msg00332.html i
presume you need to (in KDE) go Configure Desktop > Hardware > Input
Devices > Keyboard > Layouts > click to focus on the layout you are
using [Engels (VS)] then click "Add Layout" button which will open a
new pop-up, then using the spinner on the "Varient" line (third from
top) make sure you have NOT selected "International (with dead keys)"
instead select "International (AltGr dead keys)" then Ok > Apply

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21-Jul-2013, 14:11
Drunken

[solved]Auto Composor keys

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverD;2573528
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and, from Re: [SLE] Diacritical marks i
presume you need to (in KDE) go Configure Desktop > Hardware > Input
Devices > Keyboard > Layouts > click to focus on the layout you are
using [Engels (VS)] then click "Add Layout" button which will open a
new pop-up, then using the spinner on the "Varient" line (third from
top) make sure you have NOT selected "International (with dead keys)"
instead select "International (AltGr dead keys)" then Ok > Apply

That was it! Now it works like a charm! Not even the need to change the settings in x to set the alt as composer.
22-Jul-2013, 00:10
DenverD

Re: Auto Composor keys

On 07/21/2013 11:16 PM, Drunken wrote:
> That was it!

welcome...fix found by using the correct nomenclature and google.

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dd

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