libvdpau to be separated from main nVidia driver package ?

[oldcpu]

I note this news here:
Announcement: libvdpau is moving to its own package - nV News Forums

For users currently using VDPAU-based applications, we will continue to ship libvdpau and libvdpau_trace as part of the .run installer while distributions start to build their own packages for VDPAU. Once it is established in the distributions, we will stop including them in the .run package and users will need to start using the distro packages or building the library from source.

I confess, I don't know exactly what this means. I had assumed one needs libvdpau installed for vdpau to work, ... or is that the case? Or is this only for additional diagnostic tools on top of the functional vdpau?

[microchip8]

Yes, you need both the libs and support on the application side for vdpau to work. I suspect the reason they're separating them is to provide distros to easily manage packages which are linked to a specific vdpau lib version. If the NV installer each time updates the libs when one installs a new driver version, it can easily break things for such apps linked to vdpau lib. If you separate it from the driver, such breakage can be minimized

[oldcpu]

Originally Posted by microchip8

Yes, you need both the libs and support on the application side for vdpau to work. I suspect the reason they're separating them is to provide distros to easily manage packages which are linked to a specific vdpau lib version. If the NV installer each time updates the libs when one installs a new driver version, it can easily break things for such apps linked to vdpau lib. If you separate it from the driver, such breakage can be minimized

This is a fairly new announcement. I'm tempted to post the Link on the packman mailing list, to ensure this has not escaped the packagers, although knowing how much they have their ear to events, its highly unlikely they have missed it.

[Jonathan_R]

Maybe this will help. I know I had to look it up.
VDPAU - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Sagemta]

Ok, let me be the 1st to ask.For if/when this comes to Opensuse & future reference, of course.
Which does one install 1st the libvdpau or the nVidia driver?

[Jonathan_R]

Originally Posted by Sagemta

Ok, let me be the 1st to ask.For if/when this comes to Opensuse & future reference, of course.
Which does one install 1st the libvdpau or the nVidia driver?

From what I understand, both. You need the driver to get the benefits of the driver, but you need libvdpau for things like mythtv, xine, and games, that sort of thing.

[Sagemta]

Jon,
I don't think I was clear I meant like this,let's say this goes down for us in 11.3 ok?
1.I install my nice new Opensuse11.3 & I have say a GTX240 nvidia GPU
2.Now on that new install I'd be running either nv or vesa
3.I decide to install the nvidia driver, now would I, while still in one of the said drivers(nv or vesa)go to yast look for the libvdpau click to install it 1st or
4.install the nvidia driver say 200.10(if they have such a number by then)1st then the libvdpau?

[Jonathan_R]

Originally Posted by Sagemta

Jon,
I don't think I was clear I meant like this,let's say this goes down for us in 11.3 ok?
1.I install my nice new Opensuse11.3 & I have say a GTX240 nvidia GPU
2.Now on that new install I'd be running either nv or vesa
3.I decide to install the nvidia driver, now would I, while still in one of the said drivers(nv or vesa)go to yast look for the libvdpau click to install it 1st or
4.install the nvidia driver say 200.10(if they have such a number by then)1st then the libvdpau?

I would do option 4. I don't know if libvdpau would be compatible with vesa or not. This is why I said both.

[Sagemta]

Originally Posted by Jonathan_R

I would do option 4. I don't know if libvdpau would be compatible with vesa or not. This is why I said both.

Well Alrighty!
So for those who will come after it might be safe to say we can tell them how to go about this. One of us when this happens should write a how to.

[microchip8]

vdpau needs both driver support and application level support. So, if you install the lib only but not the driver, all will work but you won't be able to use vdpau. If you install only the driver but not the lib, same thing. Both need to be installed for it to work. The order is not important