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Old 03-Jul-2009, 16:57
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Nope. We merged much of the old content and archived it, but no member
accounts were ported. All member accounts are unique to OSF.

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Well thats good to know. I was afraid I had belonged to the other SUSE Forums before this one and thus continued along. Carry on with your comfort level. By the way I have 3 accounts attributed to me here because of the merge. Ooops.. almost forgot the <sarcasm> </sarcasm> tags.

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openSUSE Forums Hits 30,000 Users!
26-Jun-2009 23:50

Short but sweet post here: Getting a few numbers on community growth for the openSUSE Day introduction at LinuxTag, I noticed that the openSUSE Forums have now passed 30,000 users! That’s pretty amazing considering that we started the merged forums on June 10, 2008. In about one year’s time, we’ve seen more than 30,000 people sign [...]

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30,000 is nothing to sneeze at, so this is good news. I think it is also good news for the idea of merging the forums into one as well.
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Old 03-Jul-2009, 20:20
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30k? Now remove all the dead accounts, singleposters, etc.

Quality is still better than quantity.
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30k? Now remove all the dead accounts, singleposters, etc..
This goes for just about every other forum, and because this is a wordwide one where you can't speak your native language, even more.
Also not everyone needs or wants to post a lot, but can still be a very active user.
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On 2009-07-03 18:06:02 -0400, MattBClassic
<MattBClassic@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> said:

> I am afraid you are forgetting much, I forget little.


Any account you or anyone else has on OSF you/they created. As one of
the two people who actually did the database work for the merge, I know
precisely what information was brought over from the old forums. It's
not a matter of what I remember, or what you remember, it's simply the
factual truth. Any agenda you might have for wishing to obscure that
fact is of no concern to me.

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# merging - the act of joining together as one; "the merging of the two groups occurred quickly"; "there was no meeting of minds"
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I can certainly agree with the last statement. I have no Agenda Keith I just have this tendency to point out fact (rather irritating sometimes when a ugly fact destroys a beautiful hypothesis). Now how many of the folks who came along from the previous Forums are still active? For that matter does your Membership DB roll back the number when members are removed?

I will say the handling of trying to get the members switched over from the other Forums was pretty Mickey Mouse. Congratulations on your work on it.
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I think the point being made is this figure is a rather pointless handy thing is the members page actually will sort by posts...

The point being made even including the single posters we only get 522*30=15000 which is being inflated by spammers..
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Although the number is inflated by the consolidation of Forums members going back much further than one year.
Had we done that directly, the count would have started out well over 50.000 -- and that doesn't include the Novell/SuSE forums... Are there errors in the number? There are errors in everything ala the standard distribution applied to any set of data ("Zero Defects" is impossible). And at 30,304 just now, it's almost a moot point.

"Quality is still better than quantity. " Jan, I agree with you as it applies to most things with the exception of WAR.

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On 2009-07-04 08:36:01 -0400, MattBClassic
<MattBClassic@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> said:

>
> # merging - the act of joining together as one; "the merging of the two
> groups occurred quickly"; "there was no meeting of minds"
> wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
>
> I can certainly agree with the last statement. I have no Agenda Keith I
> just have this tendency to point out fact (rather irritating sometimes
> when a ugly fact destroys a beautiful hypothesis). Now how many of the
> folks who came along from the previous Forums are still active? For that
> matter does your Membership DB roll back the number when members are
> removed?
>
> I will say the handling of trying to get the members switched over from
> the other Forums was pretty Mickey Mouse. Congratulations on your work
> on it.


A lot of things changed when the old forums merged. Many of us
sacrificed the old way of doing things for a new way we were less
comfortable with. Some of us put the openSUSE community first, and
began something new. Some folks, like yourself, decided to move in a
different direction instead of contributing to OSF. That's your choice,
and those of us who decided to contribute by creating the official
openSUSE forums wish you the best, but not at the expense of the truth.
An attempt to put down the efforts of others that ignores the facts
doesn't further whatever agenda you're promoting.

The facts of the database merge are pretty interesting. It seems you
don't know much about what actually happened, have forgotten the
details, or are pretending to have forgotten. Good luck with that.

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"Quality is still better than quantity." I agree with you as it applies to most things with the exception of WAR.
(Huh? Even in military operations, one would reconsider when what you've bought from China does not go off as expected.)
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