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Old 26-Jun-2009, 23:26
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Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or C# - Free Software Foundation

What are your thoughts on this?

This is actually one of the reasons I still oppose Novells deal with Microsoft, after all whats to stop them if they go on a all out attack on Mono and C#?
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Stuff happens - That's why they invented 'Andrex'

If it does - Pass the offending obstruction, clean up and flush it away.
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No seriously, we may all have had concerns one way or another with M$/Linux bedfellows. But IMO most of the hype has proved to be all FUD.
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Well I know I am concerned over certain things concerning stuff like Mono, Novell, Microsoft and the inner dealings behind the scenes.
As a believer in Open source its easy to be concerned.
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Default Re: Stallman: Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or

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The danger is that Microsoft is probably planning to force all free C# implementations underground some day using software patents
OK. That's possible but all it would prove is that M$ is extremely narrow minded. (Or do we already know that?)

What I guess should concern us is. The possibility that M$ uses open source good will and efforts of developers simply for it's own 'Evil Ends'.

I would like to think (and certainly would have though it to be the case) that M$ have come to some realization of the need for collaboration.

But I'm not going to loose sleep over it.
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Default Re: Stallman: Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or C#

On 6/27/09 12:36 AM, TaraIkeda wrote:
> 'Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or C# - Free Software
> Foundation'
> (http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-...earchterm=mono)
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> What are your thoughts on this?
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> This is actually one of the reasons I still oppose Novells deal with
> Microsoft, after all whats to stop them if they go on a all out attack
> on Mono and C#?
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>

Take Stallman with a grain of salt, in his eyes there are only 7 truly
free distros. The rest fail.... http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
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Default Re: Stallman: Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or C#

TaraIkeda wrote:

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> 'Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or C# - Free Software
> Foundation'
> (http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-...earchterm=mono)
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> What are your thoughts on this?


There is already so many software patents with so wide definitions of what
is patented that only fear from patent wars prevent mass usage of them to
take down one, or the other, software product.

Mono is bad from purely technical reasons, the same that are valid for any
language that require intermediate instruction decoder to run program, which
slows down execution.

We have Java that is the same kind of language, we have Perl, Python, shell
scripting and few more, and there seems no need to have yet another one that
will require some runtime, or interpreter to be present in memory, in order
to run program.

On the other hand programmers like C# for some reason.

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Default Re: Stallman: Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or

Some of you might not have been around long enough to remember but part of the reason Qt is now unemcumbered (for open source software at least) is that FSF promoted Gnome to get around the Qt problem. Eventually Trolltech released Qt under suitable open terms. But not before the Linux desktop world split into two major camps.

As for Tomboy, it seems there is a suitable replacement in Gnote. Besides I dislike the idea of loading a whole C# runtime just to support one app. So personally I would banish Tomboy on this technical argument anyway. Not that I have a use for Gnote at the moment anyway.
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Default Re: Stallman: Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or

APEBOX.ORG - » Blog Archive » Here we go again – why Mono doesn’t suck

My gut instinct is to avoid Mono and C#, but this article argues its case well enough to make me think further.
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My gut instinct is to avoid Mono and C#, but this article argues its case well enough to make me think further.
.NET framework cannot exit fast enough from any VM that I see and Mono cannot fly out of any Linux install I have fast enough either.

Whenever I'm using a mono application I feel like I'm driving a lawnmower when I bought a Lamborghini.
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Default Re: Stallman: Why free software shouldn't depend on Mono or

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after all whats to stop them if they go on a all out attack on Mono and C#?
after all whats to stop them if they go on a all out attack on Python?

Because if the double click is patented I don't think nobody is going to argue that Microsoft hasn't any patent on Python...
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