Which forum display mode do you prefer?

[hendersj]

On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:36:01 +0000, swerdna wrote:

> I prefer linear because I’m contemporary, up with the modern technology
> (unlike the ppl who are covered with cobwebs and other antiquated
> trappings).

Oooh, them’s fightin’ words, John!

Jim

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[consused]

@deano_ferrari

I look at it the other way. If we all posted linearly (one after the other), then there would be no issue either. To me replying to specific posts in a thread introduces unecessary forks in the first place.

“Lowest common denominator” and “one size fits all” approaches can often result in the lowering of standards. I have no idea how you conclude that targeted replies constitute “forks”, especially when represented in linear mode. I’m sure the “Reply with Quote” button was provided for good reason, even though for you it also appears to be “unnecessary” :D.

That button may serve a useful purpose. Although I wouldn’t attribute these motives to you personally, quoting the words of others without any attribution could be considered impolite at best, or at worst an instance of plagiarism.

[caf4926]

Let’s not argue about such trivialities.
Whilst there may be things that present some annoyance at times. We ought to concentrate on the job at hand - Helping people.
Perfection is hard to come by, in fact, anyone who claim such by virtue of their comments, is deluded.

My observation is, that I use Linear because I’m a bit slow upstairs.
That helped me see that I should have all the more respect for my intellectually superior friends that use Hybrid.

[deano_ferrari]

My observation is, that I use Linear because I’m a bit slow upstairs.
That helped me see that I should have all the more respect for my intellectually superior friends that use Hybrid.

That’s how I see it too. It keeps things simple for me, and targeted responses are achieved with ‘@a particular user’ if necessary.

Although I wouldn't attribute these motives to you personally, quoting the words of others without any attribution could be considered impolite at best, or at worst an instance of plagiarism. 

Most understand quoting is used to give context (or reference) to a reply, nothing more, nothing less. Choice is freedom

[wrbbt]

@kgroneman

Currently the forum display default mode is “linear”. Two other options that you can switch to while viewing a thread OR you can set permanently in your user settings are “hybrid” and “threaded”. I’m just curious which you folks like better?

I prefer linear.

[stamostolias]

Hi mr Kgroneman I prefer Hybrid.

[swerdna]

@hendersj

On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:36:01 +0000, swerdna wrote:

> I prefer linear because I’m contemporary, up with the modern technology
> (unlike the ppl who are covered with cobwebs and other antiquated
> trappings).

Oooh, them’s fightin’ words, John!

Jim

–
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
Forum Use Terms & Conditions at openSUSE Forums FAQ

You know I was just joshin Jim.

[wrbbt]

@deano_ferrari

I look at it the other way. If we all posted linearly (one after the other), then there would be no issue either. To me replying to specific posts in a thread introduces unecessary forks in the first place. Maybe I’m missing the nuances here, but linear makes sense to me.

I prefer linear. But usualy, I reply to a specific post using the “Reply” or “Reply with quote” buttons (not just the “Reply to thread”), for other people that prefer hybrid or threaded to see the reply in its proper place.
In this way things keep organized even if one prefers to look at them in a simpler way.
But, anyway… There are a lot of more important things;)

[knurpht]

@consused

Linear by default for speed (reading), and Hybrid when the threading isn’t obvious. Having the alternatives is useful.

Same here, I switch from linear to hybrid and back, wouldn’t want to loose that.

[consused]

@wrbbt

I prefer linear. But usualy, I reply to a specific post using the “Reply” or “Reply with quote” buttons (not just the “Reply to thread”), for other people that prefer hybrid or threaded to see the reply in its proper place.
In this way things keep organized even if one prefers to look at them in a simpler way.
But, anyway… There are a lot of more important things;)

Thank you for that consideration and exemplary attitude.

Yes I know, I’ve been nit-picking.

[DenverD]

threaded in T-Bird and linear in Firefox

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173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

[wrbbt]

@consused

Thank you for that consideration and exemplary attitude.

Yes I know, I’ve been nit-picking.

Yeah. My post came a bit pedantic.
Criticism accepted.

[hendersj]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:06:01 +0000, swerdna wrote:

> You know I was just joshin Jim.

But of course.

Jim

Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator
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[CFN7]

Hybrid, just more friendly to manual search

[consused]

@wrbbt

Yeah. My post came a bit pedantic.
Criticism accepted.

Not really. I was only referring to my own comments for that, Your reasoning was fine.

[pistazienfresser]

Linear because of the same reasoning that Lee and Edward made (cited).
But I like also to have the choice.
And for the NNTP-users:
In my Thunderbird I can also choose if I use the GMail-like view (alike inline view) or if I expand the thread (alike threaded view).

@oldcpu

Perhaps I should amplify, that once I decide to enter a thread, I typically want to see all of the posts as quick as possible, and the way for me to easily to do that is “Linear”. I find for the technique that I employ, I am much much slower using the other display methods (threaded and hybrid). To me the slowness that those (threaded and hybrid) impose is the same as the slowness I encounter when trying to use NNTP.

@Edward_Iii

I also prefer linear, I think it makes more sense to read the messages posted in chronic order.

If someone wants to react on an older post it’s his responsibility to make it clear by quoting the needed text.

Regards
Martin
(pistazienfresser)

[oldcpu]

@pistazienfresser

And for the NNTP-users:
In my Thunderbird I can also choose if I use the GMail-like view (alike inline view)

When I checked out NNTP and decided I did not like it, I wasted an absolutely silly amount of time with Thunderbird (time I could have better spent helping a half dozen users) trying to come close to a Linear style view for something similar to what I get with vBulliten and I could not come close. When I stopped fiddling, I looked at the clock, and said never again will I do do such a time wasting effort. NNTP is a waste for me if I have to waste my time fiddling instead of helping.

So I confess that puzzles me that you can do so. What settings do you apply to get that view?

[pistazienfresser]

@oldcpu

When I checked out NNTP and decided I did not like it, I wasted an absolutely silly amount of time with Thunderbird (time I could have better spent helping a half dozen users) trying to come close to a Linear style view for something similar to what I get with vBulliten and I could not come close. When I stopped fiddling, I looked at the clock, and said never again will I do do such a time wasting effort. NNTP is a waste for me if I have to waste my time fiddling instead of helping.

So I confess that puzzles me that you can do so. What settings do you apply to get that view?

0.) I am really sorry both to have puzzled you and to have ‘stolen’ your time.:shame:

1. I was not aware that that view depends on an add-on for Thunderbird.
   The additional program was named once Gmail Conversation View and seems now to be named Thunderbird Conversations.
   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/versions/
   If wanted at all (see 2.)) be aware that you get the right version for you Thunderbird -probably:

Version 1.1.2 July 28, 2010

2. I was also not aware that the add-on only works with email-conversations - although trying now for ca. 1 h I could not activate the view both on my openSUSE 11.3 installation nor on my 11.4/factory-tested installation for the NNTP-messages. It seems to me I am really rarely using NNTP at all…

Maybe the addon would despite of that be interesting for viewing email-newsgroup-treads.

Still sorry :shame:,
Martin

[oldcpu]

@pistazienfresser

0.) I am really sorry both to have puzzled you and to have ‘stolen’ your time.:shame:

No worries … my time was wasted long before this thread … over a year ago when I first looked at NNTP. I actually still have an NNTP account setup, but I have not tried to send an NNTP post for over a year and don’t know if I can still do it. I confess, I’m solidly in the Linear presentation camp and find any other presentation frustrating for the technique I employ for the sort of support that I provide.

I was simply curious if I had missed anything , and now I see I did miss the entire concept of there being plugins available to thunderbird to improve its viewing capabilities.

[oldcpu]

@pistazienfresser

1. I was not aware that that view depends on an add-on for Thunderbird.
   The additional program was named once Gmail Conversation View and seems now to be named Thunderbird Conversations.
   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/gmail-conversation-view/versions/
   If wanted at all (see 2.)) be aware that you get the right version for you Thunderbird -probably:

I spent about 5 minutes searching here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

and found nothing that could provide the sort of linear presentation that I like.