Windows 7 RC

[RichardET]

Vista is alright; I use it on this laptop, as a matter of fact, I am using it right now; everything works, and I like the graphics; For Linux, specifically openSUSE, I use VMware 6.5.3 and create a virtual machine which is seamless on the Vista desktop. Zero problems with compatibility; I have full use of the machine from a Windows or Linux perspective; Forget dual boot or hacking drivers, just run the OS which was tailored for most x86 hardware and use VMware; don't be psychological; be logical.

> it's $200 for the upgrade.

but, can one upgrade from their Win3.11 license, if (like me) that is
the newest they have?

wait, i think i can find the booklet/license certificate with the
hologram logo for the W98 that came with a machine in '99...would that
work..

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palladium

[swerdna]

Originally Posted by palladium

> it's $200 for the upgrade.

but, can one upgrade from their Win3.11 license, if (like me) that is
the newest they have?

wait, i think i can find the booklet/license certificate with the
hologram logo for the W98 that came with a machine in '99...would that
work..

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palladium

Rotfl DD...

[didencool]

egibjk wrote:

> I am working at a University, we had Windows 7 Final a few weeks ago. In
> my opinion, you can not compare it with Suse. Suse runs on a completely
> different platform. But if you want me to compare it, I can say;
> 1. Graphics: Win7 - Effects are really nice, maybe little better than
> Suse. It looks good.
As far as I understand it should be compared from some avarage user.
I am did not see final release but I look on RC. the only thing that I like
in 7 I like it defult wallpaper. I did not like it panel (or whatever it
named) I already have the same 10 years ago with gnome, double height & only
icons... as for me I'm not like this. So "it look good" is very personal
> 2. Speed: There is no way to beat Suse, Suse it waaay faster
I can not say anything about fastest of 7 and Suse because I run it in
VirtualBox, But as for vista with Suse(GNOME or KDE) I think they near the
same. iceWM is much faster of cause
> Finally, if I compare it among all Windows editions. I can say Win7 is
> the best ever.
maybe (as for win ads it always better then previous)
> Vista was a disappointed, nice grapics but very slow.> XP
> doesn't have any effects but it is fast. If you combine both, you will
> have Windows 7.
in my opinion you got an advertising dose, I am did not see any difference
in win 7 and Vista. they are about the same. Only DE is changed. in some
cases it more complicated then previous msoses.(samba sharing, networking,
for ex) and as for hard link this is still from command line only. And what
about moving users profiles with Documents to another partition? So the
really important things is really poor.
I am using vista about half year-year(did not remember exactly) and I think
it is really great compared to xp. \User instead \Documents and setting
not so simple to allways login from Administrator. UAC that all try to
disabled.
> It's got beautiful effects and enough speed to run them.
> Even if you have Pentium M 1.73Ghz + 1GB Ram pc, you will get a great
> performance with Win7.
I am did not divide vista and 7 they both have a good performance on such pc
but video card also is very important.

all that waas said is about x86 winds, but what about win x86-64 (I am using
opensuse x86-64) so only last september some CAD become true x86-64, many
programs(that I need) did not run in compatability mode. What about hardware
that out of support? scanners, printers... and specially for x86-64 arch? My
scanner Microtek ScanMaker 3600 is good working... why it should become a
garbage?
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WBR

[didencool]

swerdna wrote:

> I have to apologise -- that $450 was the retail price by one of our
> more rapacious retail giants cashing in on opening night. I see on the
> microsoft Australia site that it's $200 for the upgrade. That's about
> $US215.
I found local(ukrainian) price for boxed Win 7 pro at 239USD
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WBR

[clatworthy]

NO! I have not.

[clatworthy]

I have just returned to a corporate environment based on Windoze XP, MS Office 2003 etc after 18 months of SUSE Linux (11.1 and KDE 4.2 - superb.
My first 20 minutes resulted in two re-boots (one with the plug being pulled out of the back of the box) and experienced the "feature" that when internet explorer hangs, so does word and excel. How £%$&**ing bad is that? I desperately needed to enter some killall .... commands in a shell but they don't provide one.

[VolkerBause]

Any present Windows System (Including Windows 7) will become slower over time. The main reason is harddrive fragmentation and system bloat.

Also, Windows stores ini (Initialization) information in a centralized repository called the system registry. This is casically a sort of database. That's one of the bottlenecks and Hercules Heels of Windows. One bad entry can bring the entire system to standstill. Linux use .conf (Configuration or INI files) which allows for a decentralized system (The original purpose of Xnix type Systems as originally intended by the US military for the rockets in the cold war against Russia. Using .conf or ini type of system means if one system breaks, others continue to function. It has to be noted that many things can break these systems and that's why Windows sucks (Abuse by virusses, spyware etc.).

Why is it better to store configuration files separate!? The best reason would be for a modular design. If one system fails, it is easy to reprogram or restore a backup. It also makes things easier on initialization as a program only need to access its own information without having to ask a database management system to retrieve and make changes. This also proves to be faster with large systems as you only grab or alter your piece of the cake. In Windows, everything becomes bloated and the effort it takes in retrieving information makes all the difference. Linux file systems were build on concepts of multi-tasking taking into consideration how files are stored. Fragmentation is not a concern as long as you don't fill up your drives to 75% or more as that would leave Linux with no other choice but to fragment files. I recently read a very interesting article on the matter as I Googled around on the topic.

The overall design of any system makes or breaks it in the long run. Except for storage limitations which were and still are dictated by costs of storage Unix and Linux based systems have been well thought through and will stand the test of time.The latest Mac systems build on BSD as far as I understood which is a reason for their success lately in the browser and OS market share. People are tired of Ooperating Systems plagued by Virus and Spyware related issues, slowness etc and that is the main reason not to support Windows. Microsoft has been shoving these problem under the carpet since I started with IT and keeping things compatable to hold their market share and dominance means this problem will probably never be resolved. Anti-Virus vendors have huge interest in Microsoft's survival as do retail outlets! Every PC sold with Windows means additional income for somebody besides Microsoft. That's the one reason Microsoft is such a hard bug to squash as to many people risk loosing profit. Also Microsoft produce their own spyware called Genuine Advantage (For Who I might add?).

I have tried many systems besides Apple Macintosh which I fixed on occasion for a clueless client and local Mac centre and if I sound pecimistic towards Windows, it is because I am. System such as Linux might be the underdog in terms of OS market share but if companies invested in writing software for it, it would surely beat the sh%£$ out of Micro$soft. Taking into consideration a 1-2% market share of a industry which is estimated to have 300 Million computers, we are talking about 6 Million computers Plus running Linux, especially taking into consideration computer systems not counted to run Linux due to the difficulty establishing such details. Much of the Internet Server systems are run by Linux and personally I hope the impact is felt by the Desktop soon. Spyware and Viruses will make sure of this (Or so I believe).