OpenSuSE 11.1 - an overview opinion

[klafft]

Hallo all,

I want to make an overview about OpenSuSE 11.1. What is working, what is not working. I have something to complain:

- Emerald window decorator is not working. Compiz is working fine, like it did in 11.0, but if starting Emerald there is no window-decorator anymore.
- I have connected a SCSI Scanner to my computer. It is perfectly working, if you access xsane as root. So if you work as a user, no device can be found. This is in my opinion a problem of YAST, because in 11.0 it really checks for user and owner settings for the SCSI port, but not in 11.1.
- I am working with a RAID 0 system. If you open the filebrowser with sysinfo:/ it does not show you the storage of the RAID system, which is normaly /dev/mdX. It shows me only the /boot partition, because that is not a part of the RAID. It is the same problem like in 11.0.
- There seemed to be a problem with Amarok. In 11.0 you can easiely change the skin. If you do it in 11.1, nothing happens. Perhaps this is the same issue as for the Emerald?
- Sometimes, if you open a filewindow, for example if you want to download something, you enter the filename and press OK, than the window jumps away, to the default position in the upper left corner and you need to press OK again.
- If you open Dolphin in a Super user mode, it shows you an error message, that there is no connection to the Klauncher and that the name org.kde.klauncher is not provided by any .service file, what ever this mean?! The konqueror works perfectly in su mode.
- I expect some new drivers for TV-cards, for example for the Hauppage HVR-1200, because of the new kernel there are new kernel modules which supports those cards. But I could not find something in YAST. No autodetect and as well the manual setting is not working probably. I also did not find any workaround. Here is as well some work needed. Of course, those card is a OEM-card by Hauppage, but provided in many computers from HP and Dell for example.

If you want, you can advance this list. OK, I understand, that OpenSuSE 11.1 is released only a couple of days. But there needs to be some works, to satisfy the users needs.

[Ixthusdan]

I cannot give an overview. 11.1 would not properly configure SLI, so I cannot use it. I did note that k3b-kde3 worked just fine, where k3b-kde4 would not find my drive. I have not seen that since Mandrake 7.x days! I have 10.3 running marvelously with SLI, Compiz, and Emerald. While kde4 is just as big a bugaboo (even the latest files) I really did not expect such a decrease in the usability of the os.

[nkent001]

I too ran into a couple of the above problems and found (on the Internet) some workarounds:
- For the problem with Dolphin in Super User Mode - put "dbus-launch" at the start of the menu item Command line (or run "kdesu dbus-launch dolphin" in terminal).
- For the K3b not finding the drive - add your user to the "disk" group and reboot.
These items are both registered bugs.

I only tested 11.1 for one day and I'm a bit worried about what else I will find - still on the fence if I should stick to 11.1 or go back to 11.0.
No disrespect to the developers but I was hoping 11.1 is 11.0 with fixes, not with new bugs.

[beardo41186]

Use the separate kde4 1 click install to get emerald working.

It's here

http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...usion-kde4.ymp

[nkent001]

New problem:
Tried to compile klibido first and then kwebget. In both cases during configure I get:
"checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!"
I think the section in the log pertaining to this is:
"configure:19124: rm -rf SunWS_cache; g++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -I/usr/lib/qt3/include -I. -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -L/usr/lib/qt3/lib -L/usr/lib64 conftest.cc -lqt-mt -lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg -ldl -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -lresolv -lpthread 1>&5
/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.3/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so when searching for -lqt-mt
/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.3/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt-mt
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status".

I found libqt-mt.so is a link to libqt-mt.so.3.3.8.

I tried all kind of things to no avail. openSUSE forums only has one entry on this, from 2004 and it doesn't apply.

[rudihauser]

The SCSI scanner problem can be solved by adding an udv rule, which sets the correct permission for /dev/sg*:
I added following line at /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules:
KERNEL=="sg*",NAME="%k",GROUP="users",MODE="664"

[nkent001]

Update:
- Safety (security) first: "For the K3b not finding the drive - add your user to the "disk" group ..." - anyone using this, correct (undo) this and make sure to apply the latest system updates. A patch was released few days ago and it seems to work.
- For the klibido and kwebget compilation errors: Still NG but I got some older binaries - they installed and seem to work fine. For klibido I have to first install a couple of libraries (YaST asked for missing dependencies).

New issues encountered:
- If few application windows or tabs are left open when ending the session, there is a good chance next login KDE crashes with "Error - KDesktop: The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly." and there are no icons on the desktop. Couldn't find a solution for this. I will follow up in a different post.
- The Updater Applet only shows patches (no "updates" tab) even though "Show available updates" is checked.
- The Mute button (multimedia keyboard) does nothing. Volume works fine. I had to use keytouch and have mute run a script.

So, the overview opinion is "OK". Have not seen much improvement over 11.0 (I'm not using KDE4). Some new problems requesting extra work for the user to fix.