openSUSE 11 - KDE 3 or KDE 4

[csm58]

For the KDE users:

During your new install of openSUSE 11, did you stick with the tried and true KDE 3.5 or did you make the switch to KDE 4?

Note sure if I've actually switched, but I did decide to give KDE 4 a good run.

[microchip8]

From what I've seen so far from KDE4, I think I'll have a hard time loving it. Give me KDE3 over KDE4 anytime.

[greenmachine]

I stuck with KDE 3.5. Migration will be difficult if I can't have most the advanced features already found in KDE 3.5.

g

[swerdna]

KDE4 is still a beta product. The KDE repos for "factory" contain another beta that's the latest and I'm told it's more functional. Since that and the default in Suse are both beta versions, wouldn't hurt to try the later version. But I don't think KDE4 will be a viable workplace product for another year IMHO.

[else_where]

I've been using 4.1 snapshots since 11.0 RC3. Actually, was using them in 10.3 before that.

It's much better than 4.0. Even though to openSUSE's credit, the devs did a great job of backporting some of the patches and improvements from 4.1 to 4.0.x which makes the openSUSE KDE4 a sort of hybrid between 4.0 and 4.1, 4.1 is still more usable. And once people can let go of the old "files on the desktop" metaphor, they'll find that folderview in plasma is much more powerful and flexible. It's cool to play with, because this is the stage at which plasma is really starting to take shape.

Just my 2c...

Cheers,
KV

[swerdna]

Originally Posted by else_where

I've been using 4.1 snapshots since 11.0 RC3. Actually, was using them in 10.3 before that.

It's much better than 4.0. Even though to openSUSE's credit, the devs did a great job of backporting some of the patches and improvements from 4.1 to 4.0.x which makes the openSUSE KDE4 a sort of hybrid between 4.0 and 4.1, 4.1 is still more usable. And once people can let go of the old "files on the desktop" metaphor, they'll find that folderview in plasma is much more powerful and flexible. It's cool to play with, because this is the stage at which plasma is really starting to take shape.

Just my 2c...

Cheers,
KV

@else_where I've upgraded to this
Help --> about KDE --> shows this: Version 4.00.82 release 4.1
I used this repo:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_Factory

But I got a few broken dependencies and a very improved but nonetheless broken result.
I'm due a new DVD in a few days and will reinstall. How do I move from that to the "snapshots" you speak of and how do I enable "folder view"?

Thanks

Swerdna

[stefan1975]

Originally Posted by swerdna

@else_where I've upgraded to this
Help --> about KDE --> shows this: Version 4.00.82 release 4.1
I used this repo:
Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/UNSTABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_Factory

But I got a few broken dependencies and a very improved but nonetheless broken result.
I'm due a new DVD in a few days and will reinstall. How do I move from that to the "snapshots" you speak of and how do I enable "folder view"?

Thanks

Swerdna

I'd say install with gnome first or any other WM of your choosing, or if add the 4.1 repo during install. But anyway what worked best for me was not to upgrade to 4.0.82 but install it "fresh" from a gnome installation.

stefan

[Cryovac]

I installed both (nice feature) and use 3.5 more often due to the still ongoing lack of desktop features in KDE4 beta.

[stefan1975]

you can move to KDE4 unstable by adding the build-service community repo in yast that says:

Index of /repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0

the folder view he spoke of is new and default in KDE4.0.81+. It is a new way of thinking. You do not have the classical desktop icons anymore but merely a new widget that can be configured to show you the contents of a filesystem folder on the desktop (so it can show ~/Desktop as well to use it in the oldschool way) and you can more of these at once to show different folders.

this might be nice to watch regarding folder view:
Free as in free speech » Blog Archive » What can KDE 4.1 do for you ?

stefan

[gregosmith]

After a few updates yesterday. KDE4 and OpenSuse 11.0 has become more stable for my system. So I won't complain too much right now.

My system if faster and better then it had been under 10.3. If I could only get suspend resume to work I think I may have everything under 11.0. Working perfectly