The great boot race - Vista/Win7/Ubuntu (9.04/9.10)

[gminnerup]

Of course Win7 boots quickly as a brand-new install. So did Vista. Let's hear from you again after a year's use, my guess is a two-minutes boot at the very least...

[GofBorg]

Great. Now try Ubuntu versus Haiku. <eg>

[michael_cheah]

Originally Posted by Axeia

That's the same for me on my laptop, Win7 (x86_64 - Professional) and openSUSE 11.2RC2(x86_64) have near enough the same startup time.
(Slow 5400 RPM drive though, and it takes more time to get to grub then it takes to get from Grub to a working OS)

Do wonder how well windows 7 will fare when subjected to the test of time though. My Vista slowed down to a crawl after ~1 year even though I hardly ever install anything and keep things 'nice and tidy' wherever possible.
openSUSE never seems to last long with an install as I pretty much upgrade for every new beta version . I do however keep the same home folder and the 'age slowdown' is very minimal.

Did you install Win7 from Retail/OEM dvd? From my experience Windows' boot time is not so bad at all straight from a fresh install using M$'s media. However what a lot of users (especially laptop users) face is their version of Windows install came preloaded from the hardware manufacturer and most of them are unnecessarily bloated to a crawl (even the recovery disk will not help here, as they reintroduce the bloatware). I gave up on Vista preinstalled on my laptop. It is just too painfully slow while openSUSE handles anything I throw at it perfectly, even HD playback

[conram]

Heck. There's a bunch of update today on openSUSE 11.2rc2. Booting on xfce including typing password and opening firefox takes just 23 seconds on my machine.

[TaraIkeda]

Ubuntu Karmic is indeed lightning fast, its definitely faster then any of the windows OS's and slightly faster then openSUSE 11.2 on my machine.
But not by much

[vodoo]

Is the boot time of any relevance at all? I doubt it. First of all, my machines run 24 hours a day. And when I HAVE to reboot (e.g after a kernel update) it takes more than an hour to do the fsck on an ext3 fs

[Axeia]

Originally Posted by michael_cheah

Did you install Win7 from Retail/OEM dvd? From my experience Windows' boot time is not so bad at all straight from a fresh install using M$'s media. However what a lot of users (especially laptop users) face is their version of Windows install came preloaded from the hardware manufacturer and most of them are unnecessarily bloated to a crawl (even the recovery disk will not help here, as they reintroduce the bloatware). I gave up on Vista preinstalled on my laptop. It is just too painfully slow while openSUSE handles anything I throw at it perfectly, even HD playback

Pulled it from my MSDN account so it's free of useless apps (well besides the ones microsoft decides I ought to have like windows media player..)

[malcolmlewis]

Originally Posted by Axeia

michael_cheah;2059020 Wrote:
> Did you install Win7 from Retail/OEM dvd? From my experience Windows'
> boot time is not so bad at all straight from a fresh install using
> M$'s media. However what a lot of users (especially laptop users)
> face is their version of Windows install came preloaded from the
> hardware manufacturer and most of them are unnecessarily bloated to a
> crawl (even the recovery disk will not help here, as they reintroduce
> the bloatware). I gave up on Vista preinstalled on my laptop. It is
> just too painfully slow while openSUSE handles anything I throw at it
> perfectly, even HD playback
Pulled it from my MSDN account so it's free of useless apps (well
besides the ones microsoft decides I ought to have like windows media
player..)

Hi
Whilst my ASUS netbook came with XP Home the restore image came with
ghost so after cleaning out the garbage (I use XPlite) I was going to
use that to create a new image.

Alas I've only booted into it a couple of times (just to get updates
and defrag/compress) and never got around to creating an image.

On subsequent installs of openSUSE and Moblin I've just kept shrinking
it..... maybe one day it will be like the incredible shrinking <insert
something> and just disappear

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Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.27.37-0.1-default
up 11:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.04
GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - CUDA Driver Version: 190.18

[i-ghost]

Originally Posted by Chrysantine

(this includes SAS scanning and initialization that takes about 10 seconds on my machine) to "all initialized" desktop (8-way Xeon + 12GB + 15k SAS spinners in Raid5)

SAS drives? I assume you mean Serial-Attached-SCSI? Mind telling me where you found a controller, please? I (ahem) have a few IBM SAS disks I would like to try which didn't really initialize when I tried SAS->SATA (a pointless endeavour in any case due to bandwith loss). Or are they sitting on a backplane?

[Chrysantine]

Originally Posted by i-ghost

SAS drives? I assume you mean Serial-Attached-SCSI? Mind telling me where you found a controller, please?

It's an Apple Mac Pro RAID card - hideously expensive too (read: ridicilously overpriced) but since I didn't pay for anything in this machine it wasn't an issue for me.

HP sells their Smart Array PCI Express cards too - you might want to take a look at them. They go for a few hundred euros up without cache memory (add 256+256 or 512+512 for Read/Write cache or you're gimping your drives and will have horrendous write performance). The HP Smart Array cards are also awesome in Linux, fully supported right out of the box.