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Originally Posted by oldcpu
...Given my experience, I can't help but think the Intel Graphics driver problem case is the exception, as opposed to the rule, being thrown up here as an example.
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Let's hope so! My experience hasn't been too bad at all, but by the sound of things I've been comparatively lucky. Still, it isn't nice watching your graphics performance get worse - even if only in specific programs - with each update on relatively new hardware.
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IMHO thats only partly true. I decided to purchase a new laptop in Nov-2008. I had been planning on this for over a year. When Nov-2008 rolled around, and I looked at the state of the graphic drivers and graphic hardware, I was horrified to read that nVidia which I like, had MAJOR problems with quality in their laptop graphics hardware. Now I dislike ATI. So I ignored ATI and I then looked at Intel graphics. Well, it was clear then they had MAJOR problems with their graphic drivers. So in the end I purchased a laptop with ATI graphics. Very very reluctantly I might add, but never the less buying ATI graphics at that time was the approach to get the EASIEST compatibility. I had no insider knowledge. None. Not one bit. But I avoided the Intel graphic problem there. So that Intel graphic problem IMHO only impacted those who had relatively new Intel hardware that worked for a while and then stopped during the driver overhaul. BUT the driver over haul did NOT impact all Intel graphic hardware as my old Fujitusu laptop adequately illustrates. So this IS unforutnate. Real unfortunate. But it NEEDS to be put in persective. And needs to be qualified.
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Hmmm. Maybe you fall into the 'unreasonable degree of technical knowledge' bracket, but are just too modest to admit it?
My point is, I probably could've found out that there was upheaval ahead, but I simply wasn't looking in the right places. I didn't know *how* to look in the right places. I knew that Intel were supporting Linux, and I knew the cards they were releasing then had reasonable price/performance characteristics. But at that stage in my knowledge, even if I'd known where to look for such information, I'd likely have had no luck interpreting it.
But as you say, hopefully this'll turn out to be something of an aberration.
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If one reads such comments above without doing more research, one would think ALL INTEL graphic hardware stopped working, and EVERY user who was in the market was taken by surprise. Thats not the case. Its unfortuante. Definitely unfortunate. But there is more to the story.
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Indeed. I think a lot of it is born of understandable frustration - people tend to just get angry with something, and assume that it's broken, when often the reality is it just isn't working using a quite specific method in quite specific circumstances.
I'm hoping that with our new quest to get the wiki going mentioned in Rupert's "hello" thread we'll be able to make real use of the HCL and things. If I had to say the biggest weakness of this distro for me, it is at the moment patchy documentation, but as I've often said, these things have huge snowball effects. The arch wiki is kept up to date *specifically because* it's already good - we just have to get over that first hurdle, I guess.
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The manner in which a distribution handles the MBR is something that has bitten me a couple of times in the past, as its an area of my knoweldge that I have been delinquent in updating. In my case, I put only one EXT3 partition on the USB and installed Sidux. optimizing a MBR location was the least of my worries, although if I were to install Sidux on a desktop it would be a different matter altogether (although frankly, as a big openSUSE fan, I like openSUSE too much to even consider putting Sidux on a desktop - only Fedora has the recent distinction of going on the desktop of one of my PCs, and that was only in a triboot for a limited time).
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I just don't get along with Fedora, and I can't work out why. I can tell it's a great distro, but it just doesn't grab me. Still, 800 more to choose from...
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Sorry to read of the Sidux community split. From what I recall, Sidux was "borne" out of a Kannotix split (where Kannotix updates are very infrequent - almost on the verge of being dead), so to read Sidux have hiccups is a sad thing for a Sidux liveCD fan like myself.
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I don't want to overstate it - these things often look blown out of proportion to an outsider. I think sidux plan to carry on, but it does sound like they may lose many of their less technically minded users to mepis and antix and such distros. They were only on sidux in the first place, it seems, for smxi and the related scripts... And it doesn't sound from my very limited reading of things like there's much chance of reconciliation.