Why not openSUSE...? - Page 4

CloudLion_ca · #31 (**permalink**) 15-Jul-2009, 20:02

Things are looking better all the time...

OpenSUSE project moves to fixed cycle for future releases - Ars Technica

Hey... is that a picture of Microchip or is it Oldcpu?

buckesfeld · #32 (**permalink**) 17-Jul-2009, 04:35

* CloudLion ca wrote, On 07/16/2009 03:06 AM:

> Hey... is that a picture of Microchip or is it Oldcpu?

That's clearly Sebastian Bergmann :-)

Uwe

GofBorg · #33 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 13:31

> Things are looking better all the time...
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> 'OpenSUSE project moves to fixed cycle for future releases - Ars
> Technica' (http://tinyurl.com/d6hwvv)
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> Hey... is that a picture of Microchip or is it Oldcpu?
>
>

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>

Nooooooo!!!!!! Say it isn't so.

"a Web-based management interface for the YaST configuration system,"

That ought to be the biggest steaming pile of hoo you've ever seen.

oldcpu · #34 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenderBendingRodriguez

Red hat also has good developers. And they are innovative. They constantly try to improve things with each release ...

I have a lot of time for the Red Hat developers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenderBendingRodriguez

while openSUSE just picks up what's been done/tested. I respect Red Hat developers for that.

That quote is wrong. Its FLAT WRONG. It has to be challenged, and challenged now !! (I missed this thread earlier). Where do you get that from? Nothing could be further from the truth than that!

microchip8 · #35 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldcpu

I have a lot of time for the Red Hat developers.

That quote is wrong. Its FLAT WRONG. It has to be challenged, and challenged now !! (I missed this thread earlier). Where do you get that from? Nothing could be further from the truth than that!

Actually, it's somewhat true. Fedora is on many occasions the first distro to include bleeding edge stuff, like Pulse audio, SELinux, Kernel Mode Settings, Ext4 *by default*, etc

SUSE adopted PA after Fedora did, SUSE still doesn't have SELinux integrated (though it's due to other reasons like AppArmor but SELinux is coming), SUSE still doesnt have KMS and Ext4 (though that's coming)

dragonbite · #36 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by microchip8

Actually, it's somewhat true. Fedora is on many occasions the first distro to include bleeding edge stuff, like Pulse audio, SELinux, Kernel Mode Settings, Ext4 *by default*, etc

SUSE adopted PA after Fedora did, SUSE still doesn't have SELinux integrated (though it's due to other reasons like AppArmor but SELinux is coming), SUSE still doesnt have KMS and Ext4 (though that's coming)

Didn't SUSE come out with xgl while Fedora focused on aiglx?

microchip8 · #37 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonbite

Didn't SUSE come out with xgl while Fedora focused on aiglx?

Dunno, I haven't payed much attention to the whole XGL fiasco. Never really ran it either. I'm nore than happy with KDE4's effects

oldcpu · #38 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by microchip8

Actually, it's somewhat true. Fedora is on many occasions the first distro to include bleeding edge stuff, like Pulse audio, SELinux, Kernel Mode Settings, Ext4 *by default*, etc

Sure ... no dispute there for some of that. But openSUSE has also been the first at times in other areas.

But to state, and so there is no dispute, I quote:

Code:

while openSUSE just picks up what's been done/tested

is not correct.

Nice of Red Hat to develop and test zypper so SuSE-GmbH could pick up on it and use it. Nice of Red Hat to develop and test YaST so SuSE-GmbH could pick up on it and use it. < sarcasm here >

Its nice there is this piece of Novell supported projects:
Novell Supported Projects - openSUSE
because we know openSUSE does not adopt any of it unless debian or Red Hat do it first.

And if one believes all of my sarcasm above, I have a bridge in SanFrancisco to sell, plus some prime Real Estate in Florida to sell at pre-subprime crash prices

dragonbite · #39 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldcpu

And if one believes all of my sarcasm above, I have a bridge in SanFrancisco to sell, plus some prime Real Estate in Florida to sell at pre-subprime crash prices

Cool! How much?!

microchip8 · #40 (**permalink**) 20-Jul-2009, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldcpu

Sure ... no dispute there for some of that. But openSUSE has also been the first at times in other areas.

But to state, and so there is no dispute, I quote:

Code:

while openSUSE just picks up what's been done/tested

is not correct.

Nice of Red Hat to develop and test zypper so SuSE-GmbH could pick up on it and use it. Nice of Red Hat to develop and test YaST so SuSE-GmbH could pick up on it and use it. < sarcasm here >

Its nice there is this piece of Novell supported projects:
Novell Supported Projects - openSUSE
because we know openSUSE does not adopt any of it unless debian or Red Hat do it first.

And if one believes all of my sarcasm above, I have a bridge in SanFrancisco to sell, plus some prime Real Estate in Florida to sell at pre-subprime crash prices

I was more referring to *global* software that eventually ends up in most if not all Linuxes

zypper & YaST are SUSE-centric pieces

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