Save Slick and KDE 3.5.10?

[CloudLion_ca]

Anyone interested in trying to get SLICK moving forward? In my opinion the SLICK concept rocks! The challenges might be monumental. SLICK - openSUSE

Some of those monumental challenges:
1. Small size openSuSE
2. Speed improvement (even if it's just a perception)
3. Clean no-bloat kit of selected software
4. A version that isn't a true fork.
5. Complete compatibility with the normal repositories.
6. Option to use KDE 3.5.10
(I'm cheating I've added that last one)

I originally believed that the concepts of SLICK and SuperSuSE were good and held some great promise. It would be nice to allow users more creative ways to use OpenSuSE. That DVD download can be a real hippo. Assuming the SLICK project was successful then we can work on OpenSuSE for Source Code fanatics, OpenSuSE for Dummies, and OpenSuSE for Forkers. Give people the tools and the creativite minds will run!

[69_rs_ss]

I would love Slick to get rolling again. I think it was a great concept. I only wish I new more about the process they used to get those CD's set up without the dependencies issues that you tend to get on a normal install. There are certain packages that are marked as needed which really aren't in some of the patterns out there.

[malcolmlewis]

Originally Posted by 69 rs ss

I would love Slick to get rolling again. I think it was a great concept.
I only wish I new more about the process they used to get those CD's set
up without the dependencies issues that you tend to get on a normal
install. There are certain packages that are marked as needed which
really aren't in some of the patterns out there.

Hi
Won't Studio be the successor? http://studio.suse.com/ and
http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Studio

My first linux distro I cut my teeth on was coyotelinux
(router/firewall) all ran off a 1.68MB floppy. Had to learn how to use
redhat 6.2 on a sparcstation 64 that I have been given to create it
first..lol

--
Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.1 (i586) Kernel 2.6.27.21-0.1-pae
up 1:52, 1 user, load average: 0.47, 0.34, 0.22
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME

[syampillai]

Wow... thanks...

I wasn't aware of these studio projects. Will study that further. In fact, I was looking for a scaled down version for quick install (like PuppyLinux).

[consused]

Thanks Malcolm. Had heard a little, but hadn't looked at that level of detail or even the demo. Exciting times ahead. Cheers.

[CloudLion_ca]

Originally Posted by 69_rs_ss

I would love Slick to get rolling again. I think it was a great concept. I only wish I new more about the process they used to get those CD's set up without the dependencies issues that you tend to get on a normal install. There are certain packages that are marked as needed which really aren't in some of the patterns out there.

My assumption is.... that there are at least 14 people who can provide a list like that.

4 could be in custody in Europe, 1 in New Zealand, 6 in North America, 1 more in China, with the remainder off-world or lost in other dimensions.

We know the 4 of the ones in North America are at a secret hidden Novell location. These 4 are kept behind locked doors and are fed pizza and beer through a feeding slot. I assume the ones in Europe share the same fate as their North American fellows.

I'm hoping at least two of these persons see 'SLICK' in the Soapbox and decide to defy oppression and email email the secret documents to someone. Just don't send them to me. I don't want my Wii bugged by the NSA at Novell's request.

[CloudLion_ca]

Originally Posted by 69_rs_ss

I would love Slick to get rolling again. I think it was a great concept. I only wish I new more about the process they used to get those CD's set up without the dependencies issues that you tend to get on a normal install. There are certain packages that are marked as needed which really aren't in some of the patterns out there.

My assumption is.... that there are at least 14 people who can provide a list like that.

4 could be in custody in Europe, 1 in New Zealand, 6 in North America, 1 more in China, with the remainder off-world or lost in other dimensions.

We know the ones in North America are at a secret hidden Novell location. These 4 are kept behind locked doors and are fed pizza and beer through a feeding slot. I assume the ones in Europe share the same fate as their North American fellows.

I'm hoping at least two of these persons see 'SLICK' in the Soapbox and decide to defy oppression and email the secret documents to someone. Just don't send it to me. I don't want my Wii bugged by the NSA at Novell's request.

[CloudLion_ca]

[QUOTE=malcolmlewis;1983326]Hi
Won't Studio be the successor? Welcome – SUSE Studio and
SUSE Studio - openSUSE

I'd call those guys the Runtime Appliance Fork of OpenSuSE. No insult intended... if openSuSE can fly drones I don't want to know about it.

I'm thinking we need a Hungry-Man Dinner openSuSE which gives you just what you need to want to run to the freezer to find the frozen deserts. Desert would be KDE 3.5.10 plus.

[hendersj]

On Sat, 09 May 2009 01:36:01 +0000, CloudLion ca wrote:

> I'm thinking we need a Hungry-Man Dinner openSuSE which gives you just
> what you need to want to run to the freezer to find the frozen deserts.
> Desert would be KDE 3.5.10 plus.

Studio could give you the option of building that.

Or, for that matter, I understand OBS is supposed to be able to do
something similar as well.

Jim

[CloudLion_ca]

Originally Posted by hendersj

On Sat, 09 May 2009 01:36:01 +0000, CloudLion ca wrote:
[color=blue]

Studio could give you the option of building that.

Or, for that matter, I understand OBS is supposed to be able to do
something similar as well.

Jim

I think it would take a serious effort to build SLICK from the build service or studio. Using the build service for a new user might be an effort. I don't see someone who needs a fast solution using that path either.

Build Service/KIWI - openSUSE

I always perceived the Slick to be an openSuSE fast food restaurant; limited menu fast in and fast out. A short image download that is up and running fast.

The key assumption Slick: a 1 CD KDE openSuSE installation that includes useful functionality and software installed during a single setup session that could completed in under 25 minutes. The basic installation wouldn't depend on network connectivity. It would minimalist but not a skeleton. I assume YaST would be the installer.

Example of some of good starts:
1. LimeJeos - openSUSE
2. Carlos Gonçalves: openSUSE 11.0 KDE3 Live CDst

I think we need something else.

I think the concept could be adapted to allow a module approach. If you get a good SLICK up and running which is compatible with the repositories then other options can be added. Perhaps the user doesn't want to fiddle with YaST and the repositories. It can a lot of time and effort to find a good mix of software and many people don't have that time to research the details.

How about modular pre-configured extension kits.
1. Expansion server packages (example: LAMP, Work Group, LAN, Organizational, WAN)
2. Application kits (example: OpenOffice mix for programmers, OpenOffice mix for writers, OpenOffice mix for dummies)
3. Programmer and Developer power packs (eg: Mono mix, C++, Web development, embedded systems, software design and software quality engineering)
4. Network deployment and security kits.
5. Education kits (example: K-12, Secondary school, Post secondary, cultural, special purpose)
6. Multimedia
7. Entertainment

People can create and share extension kits. The extension kits would allow some creative possibilities for interactions between different type of audiences using openSuSE as a communication and development tool. You can do all of the above with the main distribution if you have the time and patience. Or they hire OldCPU and he bills the customer 120.00 euros an hour. A month later they buy MS Windows and MS Office because the customer can't afford OldCPU or Linux.

SLICK would be openSuSE fast food which could be extended into that all you can eat buffet one dish at a time.

I'd like to be able to have an automated tool to recompile the entire thing from source code just be even more evil. How about trying to make it too easy and idiot poof by making winYaSt32 and winYaST64. Do all those configuration choices in Windows and just reboot and let it do all the work on it's own. Use Windows for something useful. It only has to stay there long enough to finish the building the installation scripts and options. Make those programs with C# and Mono.