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    Exclamation ZFS on Linux

    https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlin...ce/ZXADhyOwFfA

    This is a news , and i notice that no repo for open SUSE, should wе use Fedora repo?
    Your opinion about this news at all is welcome!
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    Default Re: ZFS on Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by NikolaiSS View Post
    https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlin...ce/ZXADhyOwFfA

    This is a news , and i notice that no repo for open SUSE, should wе use Fedora repo?
    Your opinion about this news at all is welcome!
    I do not know anthing aboutthe product, but using a non-openSUSE repo is not a good idea.

    You could try the tarball. And/or ask them to create an openSUSE RPM and an additional bonus might then of course to let them put it on an openSUSE repo. Preferable by using OBS. Or try to interest other people into makung it available through the OBS. Or do that yourself.
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    On 04/02/2013 10:06 PM, hcvv wrote:
    > You could try the tarball.


    or maybe the "Generic RPMs"..

    it might run from the Fedora or RedHat RPM but if i were gonna use
    the fs with any of _my_ data i'd (as Henk said) do the tarball
    compile from source thing..

    hmmmmm....if i understand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs#Linux
    correctly, i don't think i'd use it with real data at all....it has
    not yet reached version 1.

    ymmv (i really like ext4)

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    On 2013-04-02 20:46, NikolaiSS wrote:
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    > http://tinyurl.com/9wkdcfm


    This site is just a request to join google groups (Welcome to the new
    Google Groups), I don't see anything to read about zfs in there. Please
    post a link that we can all read.

    You can ask in the factory mail list what the developers think about
    including ZFS in the distribution.

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    On 04/02/2013 10:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    > On 2013-04-02 20:46, NikolaiSS wrote:
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    >> http://tinyurl.com/9wkdcfm


    that should be a google groups url to a specific post.... but
    apparently it was badly mangled when the nntp gateway sent it to
    tinyurl....taking a perfectly good URL
    https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlin...ce/ZXADhyOwFfA
    and turned it into mush..

    iow, go to the http side and it is clickable...

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    On 2013-04-02 23:06, dd wrote:
    > On 04/02/2013 10:48 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    >> On 2013-04-02 20:46, NikolaiSS wrote:
    >>>
    >>> http://tinyurl.com/9wkdcfm

    >
    > that should be a google groups url to a specific post.... but apparently
    > it was badly mangled when the nntp gateway sent it to tinyurl....taking
    > a perfectly good URL
    > https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlin...ce/ZXADhyOwFfA
    > and turned it into mush..


    That's why I post URLS inside code tags :-}


    > iow, go to the http side and it is clickable...
    >


    I see. So it is the "ZFS on Linux project" project, one of the three
    that the wikipedia article says about.


    Well, I see two routes:

    * Ask in the factory mail list.
    The people that make the decisions are there, so ask them directly.

    * Ask "ZFS on Linux project" project to create an openSUSE package.
    I see they make packages for Debian, Fedora, and RHEL/CentOS.
    Why not openSUSE? Ask them.


    My educated guess is that the openSUSE project will not do it. They
    prefer to wait till this things go upstream in the kernel - if it is a
    kernel thing. If it is a FUSE things, then chances are increased of
    having it earlier. It may be possible that some developers may be
    inclined to prepare test packages outside of factory.

    In fact, searching "zfs" at the OBS I do see a home repo that has one
    ZFS package, version 0.6.1 precisely.

    Usual warnings about home repos apply...
    In sort, ask that repo owner first.


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    Default Re: ZFS on Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by robin_listas View Post
    On 2013-04-02 23:06, dd wrote:

    >prefer to wait till this things go upstream in the kernel - if it is a
    >kernel thing.
    This will not be part of the kernel because the license is not GPL!
    Last edited by hcvv; 03-Apr-2013 at 01:38.
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    Default Re: ZFS on Linux

    This will not be part of the kernel because the license is not GPL!
    While not part of the kernel, it can be deployed as described below.

    ZFS on Linux is "ready for wide scale deployment" - The H Open: News and Features

    ZFS on Linux is licensed under a combination of GPLv2 (for the Solaris Porting Layer) and the CDDL (for the ZFS system); the ZFS on Linux FAQ addresses the issues around ZFS's licensing.
    From the FAQ
    While both are free open source licenses they are restrictive licenses. The combination of them causes problems because it prevents using pieces of code exclusively available under one license with pieces of code exclusively available under the other in the same binary. In the case of the kernel, this prevents us from distributing ZFS as part of the kernel binary. However, there is nothing in either license that prevents distributing it in the form of a binary module or in the form of source code.
    Last edited by deano_ferrari; 03-Apr-2013 at 00:58.

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    Default Re: ZFS on Linux

    On 2013-04-03 09:56, deano ferrari wrote:
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    >>
    >> This will not be part of the kernel because the license is not GPL!

    > Not quite true.
    >
    > 'ZFS on Linux is \"ready for wide scale deployment\" - The H Open: News
    > and Features' (http://tinyurl.com/d923sck)


    Well, again, this has to be asked in the factory mail list, or perhaps
    the project mail list. Get developers interested. And also make the SUSE
    legal team verify the license issue: it will be this team who will
    decide ultimately if this project is accepted or rejected.

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