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    Default How to improve crispness (clarity) of desktop? -- Xfce under opensuse 12.2 on Lenovo X220t

    I have been using Xfce very happily for several weeks, since installing openSUSE 12.2. I generally use a Samsung Syncmaster SA350 in lieu of the laptop screen. Last night I decided to try to tweak the display, for my eyes were tired. The end result is much worse than the starting point (which was bad enough).

    Text lacks sharpness, both in window tiles and icons, and within applications (e.g. Kile, Kate, gedit and so on). I've been in and out of Settings Manager many times, and I am bamboozled by exotic possibilities such as "Hinting" and Sub-pixel order (fiddling there has bought me no gains). I am using Droid Sans 12font, with anti-aliasing enabled, but it isn't very nice (I found nothing better). The response to changing the "Style" is bewildering - sometimes a change is immediate, sometimes not. I'm on "Raleigh" at the moment but have sampled them all. I've played with Custom DPI settings, but have that unchecked for now.

    I was using a friend's Dell with Windows 8 for a while today, and in terms of the visual clarity or preciseness of the text it was very much superior -- it was what one expects. It was satisfactory. It was pleasing. I think perhaps the best descriptor is "crisp." My setup is very much not crisp.

    Can anyone suggest a combination of settings I might try? Thanks, John

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    Default Re: How to improve crispness (clarity) of desktop? -- Xfce under opensuse 12.2 on Lenovo X220t

    Quote Originally Posted by j1d1w1 View Post
    I have been using Xfce very happily for several weeks, since installing openSUSE 12.2. I generally use a Samsung Syncmaster SA350 in lieu of the laptop screen. Last night I decided to try to tweak the display, for my eyes were tired. The end result is much worse than the starting point (which was bad enough).

    Text lacks sharpness, both in window tiles and icons, and within applications (e.g. Kile, Kate, gedit and so on). I've been in and out of Settings Manager many times, and I am bamboozled by exotic possibilities such as "Hinting" and Sub-pixel order (fiddling there has bought me no gains). I am using Droid Sans 12font, with anti-aliasing enabled, but it isn't very nice (I found nothing better). The response to changing the "Style" is bewildering - sometimes a change is immediate, sometimes not. I'm on "Raleigh" at the moment but have sampled them all. I've played with Custom DPI settings, but have that unchecked for now.

    I was using a friend's Dell with Windows 8 for a while today, and in terms of the visual clarity or preciseness of the text it was very much superior -- it was what one expects. It was satisfactory. It was pleasing. I think perhaps the best descriptor is "crisp." My setup is very much not crisp.

    Can anyone suggest a combination of settings I might try? Thanks, John
    My fonts are good in xfce
    I suggest you search this forum with something like font and subpixel hinting
    There are lots of advises in the thread results from search that you will be able to read.
    Alternatively you can use google regarding the above but add forums openSUSE in the search query.
    You might think I am driving you away but this is good way of finding answer while waiting for an
    expert to answer your question in this thread.
    People who do not break things first will never learn to create anything

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    Default Re: How to improve crispness (clarity) of desktop? -- Xfce under opensuse 12.2 on Lenovo X220t

    Thanks for the suggestion. My post did not mention that I had also messed with the monitor (Syncmaster SA350) Menu. Since posting I made the adjustments suggested by Samsung Syncmaster SA350 Monitor: Thoughts and Settings | Linux Tidbits, and this resulted in an improvement. I subsequently turned the brightness down to 30 from his recommended 100. JDW


    Quote Originally Posted by conram View Post
    My fonts are good in xfce
    I suggest you search this forum with something like font and subpixel hinting
    There are lots of advises in the thread results from search that you will be able to read.
    Alternatively you can use google regarding the above but add forums openSUSE in the search query.
    You might think I am driving you away but this is good way of finding answer while waiting for an
    expert to answer your question in this thread.

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    Default Re: How to improve crispness (clarity) of desktop? -- Xfce under opensuse 12.2 on Lenovo X220t

    I think you could probably fix the fonts with these settings in ~/.Xdefaults
    That works for me on blackbox/fluxbox.



    Code:
    Xft.dpi: 96
    Xft.antialias: true
    Xft.hinting: true
    Xft.rgba: rgb
    Xft.autohint: false
    Xft.hintstyle: hintslight
    Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault

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    Default Re: How to improve crispness (clarity) of desktop? -- Xfce under opensuse 12.2 on Lenovo X220t

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