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Thread: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

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    Default HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    Hi

    I have over the last 2 months experienced seemingly random system freezes on a Lenovo w520 (HD3000 Sandy Bridge) and a Lenovo w530(HD4000 Ivy Bridge) machine. Both running OpenSuSE 12.2. I have read many forum threads and tried a few things without success. The logs are not very helpful as nothing specific seems to be the problem and I suspect the freezes prevent the logs from being written. A hard reset is needed to get the machines going again.

    I have noticed that on the current HD4000 system I cannot select OpenGL as the Compositing type when booting with the HD4000 adapter. Using the discrete nVidia (K2000) works fine however. I do not know if this happened on the w520.

    I also had both machines working correctly by not installing what I thought were pertinent graphics/XServer/Mesa/KDE4 related updates after the initial install. I attempted to do the same during subsequent installs but somehow included an update that seems to produce an unstable system.

    The w520 machine is no longer available for debug purposes as it has been replaced by the w530. I think it noteworthy that the freezes happened on both Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, although I do not know how this might be useful to pinpoint the problem.

    I have limited knowledge of the intricacies of graphics drivers / XServer /Mesa interactions and am looking for help in getting to the bottom of this. Possibly increasing debug output or other diagnostics to get the machine running correctly.

    Thanks
    Malte

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    Default Re: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    @maltev

    on my HW this occurs when the updates are inconsistent

    by this I mean some updates from one repo and others from another leading to a
    conflict

    one way to solve this is to open yast then open the Repositories tap
    then click on the 'installed (Available)' column header until the ^ sign is
    shown and then see if any package version number is in red

    if so it indicates the package is newer than required

    go through each repository you have enabled and toggle the
    'Switch system packages' / 'Cancel switching bar' to try to go to an older
    version without breaking any dependencies

    I do not know what your preferences are but on a standard install would suggest
    you give higher priority to the repos listed below first

    1. 'http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2/'
    2. 'http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/'
    3. 'http://http://pmbs.links2linux.org/project/packages?project=Essentials/'
    4. 'http://pmbs.links2linux.org/project/packages?project=Multimedia'

    Nb. only allow 3. & 4. to supersede 1. & 2. for audio and video applications

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    Default Re: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    @keellambert

    Thanks for your suggestions. I will try that. If there are changes I will observe how the system operates afterwards. I have currently switched Desktop Effects off and it seems better, but that might just be coincidence. I will get back with any results.

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    Default Re: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    Hi

    I have gone through all the repositories as suggested and found no inconsistencies except for some audio (packman repository) updates. I have updated the machine to the repositories and their respective priorities listed below:

    Index of /distribution/12.2/repo/oss 99 Index of /distribution/12.2/repo/non-oss 99 Index of /debug/distribution/12.2/repo/oss 99
    Index of /source/distribution/12.2/repo/oss 99 http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/12.2/ 99 Index of /update/12.2 89 Index of /update/12.2-non-oss 89 Index of /debug/update/12.2 89 Index of /debug/update/12.2-non-oss 89 ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.2/ 79 Index of /suse/12.2/ 79
    I still cannot switch into OpenGL compositing in System Settings however. I suspect there is a more fundamental problem. I have also had freezes with Desktop Effects switched off - again not sure what that might imply.

    I am writing this from another machine. While working on the w530 it froze again. However, I was listening to music through headphones which continued to play. I tried pinging the w530 from another machine, but got no response, neither did ssh work. A DVD writing process using K3b seemed to continue indefinitely - at least the DVD was spinning but never finished and was unusable after a hard reset. I mention these things as it might indicate which subsytems are still operational.

    Any additional help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Malte

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    Default Re: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    A repost of the repos, mangled in the previous post:

    Code:
    http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/       99
    http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/              99 
    http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.2/repo/non-oss/          99 
    http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/12.2/repo/oss/        99 
    http://opensuse-guide.org/repo/12.2/                                  99  
    
    http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2/                             89 
    http://download.opensuse.org/update/12.2-non-oss/                     89 
    http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2/                       89 
    http://download.opensuse.org/debug/update/12.2-non-oss/               89  
    
    ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/12.2/                              79
    
    http://packman.inode.at/suse/12.2/                                    79
    Last edited by oldcpu; 19-Dec-2012 at 19:37. Reason: fixed syntax of [ / code ]

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    Default Re: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    @maltev

    Your repos look ok.

    The problems may be related to the kernel used.

    Have you considered trying out Tumbleweed on one of your pc's,
    by doing this you would be updating to a newer kernel and desktop environment etc.

    just make sure you have the following packages installed before
    installing the graphics driver

    kernel-default-devel-3.6.10-15.1.x86_64
    kernel-desktop-3.6.10-15.1.x86_64
    kernel-desktop-devel-3.6.10-15.1.x86_64
    kernel-devel-3.6.10-15.1.noarch
    kernel-source-3.6.10-15.1.noarch
    kernel-syms-3.6.10-15.1.x86_64
    kernel-xen-devel-3.6.10-15.1.x86_64
    kernel-firmware-20120719git-2.2.noarch
    (NB. I'm assuming you have a 64bit OS otherwise you need the 32bit versions)

    (I do not have any recent experience with nVidia graphics,
    so apologies for any inaccuracies)

    you can check your kernel install with cmd

    Code:
    rpm -qa | grep kernel
    all kernel packages should have the same version number with the exception of kernel-firmware

    have fun

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    Default Re: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    @keellambert

    Thanks again for your suggestion. I have been considering that for a while. I did attempt it but produced an unusable system, probably because of badly configured repositories. Hence my following question:

    How do I need to include the Tumbleweed repository so that it correctly has priority over the distribution and update repos? Should I disable the update repos and just leave the basic distribution repo and Tumbleweed repo? Or alternatively should I just add the Tumbleweed repo with a priority higher than both the distribution and update repos?

    Regarding having fun - I will!

    Thanks
    Malte

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    Thanks, I'm sure I'll manage with all that info. I'll get back with the results...

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    Default Re: HD3000 and HD4000 System freezes on OpenSuse 12.2

    @maltev

    in other threads people with your exact HW are using

    nvidia beta 310.19 with bumblebee, from repo BumbleNvidiaLatest

    maybe you should also look into bumblebee if you are not already using it

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